Autism is NOT a disorder

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Repeating the same nonsense doesn't make it true. Believe what you want to believe, but stop expecting other people to accept the illogical nonsense.

Whoever said a disability has to be "unambiguous"? Deaf people actually are less disabled by their lack of hearing than autistic people are disabled by a lack of normal human social skills and other problems.

"Ambiguous" is really a relative term. It depends on what a person considers to be ambiguous. Deaf people do not always completely lack hearing. So what is "deafness?" A lack of hearing, hearing that is slightly impaired, totally impaired? Where's the line drawn? Is one person with slightly better hearing not deaf, while another with slightly worse hearing is deaf? What is "normal" hearing anyway? Isn't the line that's drawn between normal and abnormal arbitrary? If you look at it that way, deafness as a disability is also ambiguous.

There is no such thing as an unambiguous disability, it's all dependent on society. Bacteria are blind and deaf, they can't think or reason, they have no limbs, and they can't do much of anything. So are bacteria disabled? No because all other bacteria are like that too and they can function as a bacteria just fine as they are, but if any of those traits applied to a human then they definitely would be considered disabled because functioning as a human in human society as we know it requires certain abilities. There is no such thing as an unambiguous disability, autism related or otherwise.

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No one is ignoring your arguments. We are refuting them, and you are still repeating the same things as if they weren't already refuted. Your arguments are illogical, and don't fit the facts. They are simply your opinions which aren't backed up by facts.

Believe what you want to believe, but don't expect others to believe in nonsense.

That's just it. You keep telling the same lies over and over. I refuted them already. I also refuted the sources. Now I'm ignoring them because they are invalid to everyone except you.

Get a Master's degree in Psychology, publish some valid research papers in an equally valid peer-reviewed psychological journal, and then maybe I'll start considering your arguments as something other than fallacious and irrelevant.

Until then, no amount of thread-spamming and repetition on your part will add even one iota of credibility to your claims.

Deal with it.

How can you prove everyone involved in designing society was/is neurotypical?

^ Good point.

Those aren't specifically neurotypical problems, not so sure people with ADHD/ADD are neurotypical for one and those are usually the ones who are prescribed adderall or other stimulants. Also not sure addiction records keep track of the neurology of the addicts for those who may end up with an addiction problem with those drugs.

And as far as I can see most neurotypicals seem to handle stress better than me, like they can still function even when they're stressed whereas my functioning gradually starts declining and declining till I just can't deal with anything anymore and then I need to chill RIGHT NOW! I've also had chronic anxiety since I was a kid, I have it a bit more under control now but it's still a hindrance.

I've tried anti-depressants because I also developed chronic depression, I don't take them now as they didn't help...I've found alternatives.

And finally I tried to commit suicide when I was 15, and went to a psych ward a couple times since because I was feeling suicidal.

What makes you think most neurotypicals as opposed to people with autism or other neurological conditions are more likely to suffer these problems?

Not to mention you do realize there are neurotypicals who aren't well adjusted either right?...Not to mention though how society morphs is kind of up to my generation or around that and younger ones, I am not going to promote us vs. them mentality based on neurology...that isn't inductive to progress. I have plenty of family, aquantinces and a few friends I am the only one I know who for sure is on the autism spectrum...so yeah I might be associating with 'neurotypicals' but they aren't 'normal well adjusted members of society that look down on those who aren't.' Point is its not as simple as neurotypical bad neurodivergent good.

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I don't have an complete inability to relate to the culture I live amoung, or parts of it at least...I have never fit into like popular culture. But I've been exposed to music and sub-cultures and all kinds of sorts of groups of people, some who try to conform to popular/mainstream norms and some who reject most popular culture. I relate to the subculture surrounding metal...plenty of neurotypicals in that crowd and somehow it hasn't become a carbon copy of mainstream pop culture or whatever. Really though there isn't really even a set 'culture' in this country anyways aside from commercialism.

Also I find it kind of insulting anyone would suggest my experience of interacting with neurotypicals is exactly like if I was a sole north american immigrant in a rural community of east asia, sub-saharan africa or south america. I don't feel like I have no understanding of the spoken language or that I don't understand any of the customs. I can understand what people say to me and respond...I am aware of plenty of social norms(though not all come natural or make sense to me). Also I think I'd feel pretty uncomfortable if I was just put in some other country where I don't know the language or anything..I'd much prefer to do that with someone or in a group so I have at least one other person who speaks my language.

I don't think I can make my point any clearer than I already have, so I'm giving up on this. Real life is calling for attention...

Live long and prosper, dudes and dudettes!!