Will Trump Disclose his Taxes?

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I'll catch you on the next debate Jacoby. This one's been pretty well discussed and to be frank I'm done with it because I have other interests on the site aside from this thread that I'd like to spend time on. (Politics is only a side interest for me here). It was a lively and edgy discussion, the type I enjoy-- thanks for participating and sparring with me, same with you Dox, there were some good zingers in this one. Also, let's face it, this got way off topic: we're talking African-American voting block in a thread titled "Will Trump Disclose his Taxes?" Lol, only in PPR. 'Till the next debate.

I'm not talking about John Brown, who was a well intentioned fanatic, but Lincoln, his cabinet, and congressional radicals like Thaddeus Stevens, who had enacted emancipation, and who had been behind the Freedman's Bureau during radical reconstruction.
And who said northern cities were paragons of racial progressivism? Racism exists everywhere, and with it anger. But that hardly dismisses the blatant racism in conservative states, whether those states had been under the control of old time southern Democrats, or the Republicans of today.
And yes, it's absolutely true the political parties of old can't be held to modern standards of conservatism or liberalism. That said, Lincoln could hardly fit in the Republican party of today, while Jefferson Davis hardly would fit in with modern day Democrats.

This is a joke, right?

http://www.satiratribune.com/2016/09/08 ... x-returns/

"Satirical and futuristic news"... hypocrisy, on the other hand, very real indeed.

Given the statements Trump has made in the past, accusing others of not paying their fair share of tax, disclosing his returns now might expose him to being voted "tax hypocrite of the century". He evaded calls to release them (despite every other candidate having done so for decades) by trying to shift the blame for that omission on to his rival, ignoring his own double hypocrisy in doing that. (Trump is a loser of incriminating emails himself, he destroyed evidence long ago). The hypocritical email claim is always wheeled out to obscure Trump's non-disclosure issue. Time that this stopped and the returns were made fully available to scrutiny.

Things Trump has said about people who don't pay their share of taxes:
http://time.com/4516001/donald-trump-taxes-twitter/
https://thinkprogress.org/7-tweets-by-t ... .t1bdqh9sd

What assurances has Trump given but not delivered on? (Quite a few, see link). Promises, promises, promises..

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... t-released

Funny how his cult thinks he's 'honest' and yet rated worst liar by Politifact in addition to being... the only presidential candidate ever to not release his taxes, I think... which would make him the least honest, presumably, unless honesty is redefined.

You have to understand "the bubble". The vast majority of Gump's, oh sorry, I meant Trump's supporters get their news from one of Breitbart's news factories. I say factories, because there are over 1000 sites that are ran by Breitbart under different names and banners, but the stories all originate from one place with minor cosmetic changes to make the articles appear like they were written by different people. All affiliated sites are heavily cross-linked to each other (aside from Breitbart itself, so the main site looks unaffiliated and credible). So you read one story on an affiliated site that says "Hillary kills children", then you click to one of their affiliates that has an article with the exact same story, but minor alterations, perhaps now it's "Hillary maims children" and it appears now that there are 2 people that have the same "facts" that Hillary hurts children-- even though it's just the one central source. Now multiply that by literally 1000's.

Now, if you're a consumer of such "news"-- and trust me, that is a stretch, it's 95% crap you'd see in the "Opinions" sections of a legitimate newspaper-- but anyhow, if you're a reader and you've been sucked into the click ring to affiliated sites you get a completely altered reality of what's going on in the world, since every place you go there's a story about "Hillary killing children". So obviously if you hear someone from outside the bubble repeating actual news, you're going to go, but wait I heard the exact opposite multiple places-- and I'm well informed, I read a lot, so this person is obviously lying! It doesn't matter that what they've been reading is false, the fact that they've read a lot of it and not really checked it's credibility gives them the assumption they are telling the "truth". I mean, seriously, how could it be wrong-- I visited 200 websites and they all said the same thing. It's this "mass verification" that makes them so cocksure of their opinions. A misattributed quote to Joseph Goebbels is appropriate here: "You tell a big lie long enough and people will start to believe it."

So now, take Trump, with all his lies and distortions-- people in the bubble 1. don't get the story because Breitbart's machine doesn't publish it, or 2. they spin it as a lie by the liars in the mainstream media (you know the media not controlled by Breitbart). Then they hear this version literally 100's of times from the same source (masquerading as several sources). The internet has done some amazing things...this is not one of them.

Today I looked at the "Flying Monkey Trump Supporters cartoon" and thought God Help America. I think only a tiny percentage of the devoted have any idea about how people with NPD manipulate supporters to fly off and do their bidding. Trump's encouragement to assassinate Clinton seemed to be an appeal to his Flying Monkeys, at least from my own perspective.

I had no idea Breitbart's tentacles were so many, or had such reach.

Nor did I. That explains a lot, thanks.

Well if you're ever suspicous about the credibility of a website I recommend using www.whois.net-- just type in the domain or ip address and it'll tell you who the site is registered to.

Trump is a coward, conman, sexist, racist and much more.. the chances of him releasing his taxes are low.

I find it sickening how people don't think this is a sign he is hiding something. Every other candidate for a while now has released them! He shouldn't be some magical exception just because he feels he shouldn't. He has used the same excuses many times for not releasing them. Tax experts and other billionaires have said the truth about audits, but he still plays dumb. People should've been hounding him on his taxes a hell of a lot more. Also people should be asking him why he lies so much. Ask him a question- if he lies about "not saying it", show him the video proof right away, then ask him why he just lied. Last night's debate was more of the same- Trump lying, interrupting and avoiding questions. So pathetic.