Will Trump Disclose his Taxes?
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I find it so amusing how the Left is jumping down Trump's throat for some measly tax returns when as*hole in the White House showed no school documents or his birth records until he had been in as president for how many years? Has he even shown his school transcripts? Trump owes you nothing.
The fact that the President taught as an Ivy League law instructor speaks volumes, hence there's little need for him to have to produce law school transcripts, while the whole birth certificate thing was the machinations of racists who were sore losers over two Republican Presidential defeats. There is actually no law making Trump release his tax information - though even Richard Nixon had, while being audited no less - but it would go a long way to inspire trust among voters if he did. Otherwise, the American people are going to believe he is hiding something. And maybe he is.
You know who is hiding something? Hillary Clinton in the 30k emails she deleted off her illegal private server that she said were private, Hillary has no idea what wiping a server means even tho she went thru the painstaking steps of printing all these emails and setting up the server itself which was a blatant attempt at skirting open government laws. Hillary made $25 million in speeches in the couple years after she left as Secretary of State(the worst of all time I should add) and officially started running for president again, some hell of a speech right? Definitely no quid pro quo going on with the Clinton Foundation is there? Trump has built hotels, golf courses, casinos, meaning he has created real jobs whereas the Clinton's have become wildly rich how? What have they produced in their entire lives?
I thought all of that email stuff, along with all the rest of the Benghazi hokum, had been unmasked as a Republican witch hunt after they had grilled her for countless hours after fruitless hours.
And I don't pretend to know about how the Clintons make money off of their investments, other than to say that till they are actually brought up on charges of financial impropriety, I see no reason to rag on them over accusations lacking facts.
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. . . while the whole birth certificate thing was the machinations of racists who were sore losers over two Republican Presidential defeats.
Actually it was the Clinton camp who first advanced the birth certificate question during the 2008 primary, as her campaign for the nomination faded.
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I find it so amusing how the Left is jumping down Trump's throat for some measly tax returns when as*hole in the White House showed no school documents or his birth records until he had been in as president for how many years? Has he even shown his school transcripts? Trump owes you nothing.
The fact that the President taught as an Ivy League law instructor speaks volumes, hence there's little need for him to have to produce law school transcripts, while the whole birth certificate thing was the machinations of racists who were sore losers over two Republican Presidential defeats. There is actually no law making Trump release his tax information - though even Richard Nixon had, while being audited no less - but it would go a long way to inspire trust among voters if he did. Otherwise, the American people are going to believe he is hiding something. And maybe he is.
You know who is hiding something? Hillary Clinton in the 30k emails she deleted off her illegal private server that she said were private, Hillary has no idea what wiping a server means even tho she went thru the painstaking steps of printing all these emails and setting up the server itself which was a blatant attempt at skirting open government laws. Hillary made $25 million in speeches in the couple years after she left as Secretary of State(the worst of all time I should add) and officially started running for president again, some hell of a speech right? Definitely no quid pro quo going on with the Clinton Foundation is there? Trump has built hotels, golf courses, casinos, meaning he has created real jobs whereas the Clinton's have become wildly rich how? What have they produced in their entire lives?
I thought all of that email stuff, along with all the rest of the Benghazi hokum, had been unmasked as a Republican witch hunt after they had grilled her for countless hours after fruitless hours.
And I don't pretend to know about how the Clintons make money off of their investments, other than to say that till they are actually brought up on charges of financial impropriety, I see no reason to rag on them over accusations lacking facts.
Perhaps that is the narrative the media would like to push out of it, am I suppose to be impressed with Hillary being on the stand for hours? Yeah, she doesn't crack under interrogation since she has experience. Yet you rag on Trump over any baseless accusations lacking any facts whatsoever while there is an extensive paper trail proving the Clinton's guilt and an entire presidential administration that Hillary is too ashamed to even admit being a party too.
The bigger point is that an unemployed taxi driver in Romania, using nothing more than a desktop computer, was able to infiltrate the account of a woman privy to America’s closest-held secrets who was using a home-brew server.
The Chinese are brighter than Romanian taxi drivers. They employ hackers whose only job is to infiltrate the U.S. government. Those hackers have supercomputers at their service. They have lists upon lists of relatives and friends and aides of powerful people. When they break into accounts, they don’t publicize it.
This woman is qualified to lead America as much as Brett Favre's wife is qualified to lead the Green Bay Packers.
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. . . while the whole birth certificate thing was the machinations of racists who were sore losers over two Republican Presidential defeats.
Actually it was the Clinton camp who first advanced the birth certificate question during the 2008 primary, as her campaign for the nomination faded.
Yes, that is true, and she should be ashamed for unleashing that idiocy for racists to make use of.
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I find it so amusing how the Left is jumping down Trump's throat for some measly tax returns when as*hole in the White House showed no school documents or his birth records until he had been in as president for how many years? Has he even shown his school transcripts? Trump owes you nothing.
The fact that the President taught as an Ivy League law instructor speaks volumes, hence there's little need for him to have to produce law school transcripts, while the whole birth certificate thing was the machinations of racists who were sore losers over two Republican Presidential defeats. There is actually no law making Trump release his tax information - though even Richard Nixon had, while being audited no less - but it would go a long way to inspire trust among voters if he did. Otherwise, the American people are going to believe he is hiding something. And maybe he is.
You know who is hiding something? Hillary Clinton in the 30k emails she deleted off her illegal private server that she said were private, Hillary has no idea what wiping a server means even tho she went thru the painstaking steps of printing all these emails and setting up the server itself which was a blatant attempt at skirting open government laws. Hillary made $25 million in speeches in the couple years after she left as Secretary of State(the worst of all time I should add) and officially started running for president again, some hell of a speech right? Definitely no quid pro quo going on with the Clinton Foundation is there? Trump has built hotels, golf courses, casinos, meaning he has created real jobs whereas the Clinton's have become wildly rich how? What have they produced in their entire lives?
I thought all of that email stuff, along with all the rest of the Benghazi hokum, had been unmasked as a Republican witch hunt after they had grilled her for countless hours after fruitless hours.
And I don't pretend to know about how the Clintons make money off of their investments, other than to say that till they are actually brought up on charges of financial impropriety, I see no reason to rag on them over accusations lacking facts.
Perhaps that is the narrative the media would like to push out of it, am I suppose to be impressed with Hillary being on the stand for hours? Yeah, she doesn't crack under interrogation since she has experience. Yet you rag on Trump over any baseless accusations lacking any facts whatsoever while there is an extensive paper trail proving the Clinton's guilt and an entire presidential administration that Hillary is too ashamed to even admit being a party too.
What baseless accusations have I ragged on Trump about? I've been critical of him stoking xenophobia to appeal to the worst in people, and showing little if any concern that white supremacists belong to the ranks of his fan club.
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That's interesting, you seem to be trying to thread a needle where birthers are racist, but Hillary is not, even though you acknowledge that she started the whole thing.
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The Clinton's were social conservatives before they progressive liberals, they have no principles whatsoever. They were anti-gay, anti-welfare, tough on crime, free traders. They follow the polls. Hillary ran a very different campaign in 2008, there were a lot of racially tinged remarks in that race where she wrapped herself around blue collar white voters because minority support for Barack Obama was so strong which is a funny contrast to her campaign now which is almost exclusively identity politics.
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That's interesting, you seem to be trying to thread a needle where birthers are racist, but Hillary is not, even though you acknowledge that she started the whole thing.
Hilary has the infamy of unleashing the whole racist cesspool of birtherism for the sake of knocking Obama out of the race when she was losing to him. I don't think she herself is actually a racist, but she clearly understood how to manipulate racism for personal gain, which should be a black mark against her for the rest of her life, or till when or if she ever fesses up and apologizes. But the dimwits and inbreds who ran with the whole birther bullsh*t clearly did so for racist reasons. I would like anyone to explain how birthers are not racists.
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That's interesting, you seem to be trying to thread a needle where birthers are racist, but Hillary is not, even though you acknowledge that she started the whole thing.
Hilary has the infamy of unleashing the whole racist cesspool of birtherism for the sake of knocking Obama out of the race when she was losing to him. I don't think she herself is actually a racist, but she clearly understood how to manipulate racism for personal gain, which should be a black mark against her for the rest of her life, or till when or if she ever fesses up and apologizes. But the dimwits and inbreds who ran with the whole birther bullsh*t clearly did so for racist reasons. I would like anyone to explain how birthers are not racists.
For the same reason Cruz's birth certificate came to question. But that's OK, I guess, since he's white. He better "check his privilege". Spare me.
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Obama did not release his birth certificate for a very long time for a reason, he played it up himself because it's better they harp on that rather than something that can hurt him politically. Obama is a savvy guy, him and his team probably don't get enough credit for the campaign they built up but they knew how to manipulate the media narrative and his opponents. He plays the race card when he feels he needs to, like I said very savvy.
Now what is racist about that? If you throw around the term too much it loses all meaning and besides according to people now you don't even have to be born in this country to be a natural born citizen so I guess it is a moot point. Personally, I don't believe Ted Cruz to be eligible.
Simple; just like Hillary, it wasn't about race, it was about tarnishing the legitimacy of a political opponent for political reasons. See, the problem here is that you're trying to have it both ways, painting all birthers as racist while letting Hillary off with 'it was just sleazy politics', when the truth is more likely a mixture, as some birthers were undoubtedly racist, while some were likely just playing politics; like Angela pointed out, Trump himself brought up Cruz's citizenship the same way he did Obama's, which definitely points to politics rather than race as his motivation. This is that identity politics thing that everyone is so sick of, it's not always about race, and with the way we're going, pretty soon the accusation of racism is going to lose it's sting from overuse, if it isn't starting to already.
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Simple; just like Hillary, it wasn't about race, it was about tarnishing the legitimacy of a political opponent for political reasons. See, the problem here is that you're trying to have it both ways, painting all birthers as racist while letting Hillary off with 'it was just sleazy politics', when the truth is more likely a mixture, as some birthers were undoubtedly racist, while some were likely just playing politics; like Angela pointed out, Trump himself brought up Cruz's citizenship the same way he did Obama's, which definitely points to politics rather than race as his motivation. This is that identity politics thing that everyone is so sick of, it's not always about race, and with the way we're going, pretty soon the accusation of racism is going to lose it's sting from overuse, if it isn't starting to already.
Granted, there have doubtlessly been some birthers who were just interested in using that idiocy - like Clinton - to hurt Obama politically. The fact remains, most birthers have been inspired by their hatred of America having a black President. Either way, I can't see how a sensible person could honestly believe there was anything to the birther nonsense.
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Now what is racist about that? If you throw around the term too much it loses all meaning and besides according to people now you don't even have to be born in this country to be a natural born citizen so I guess it is a moot point. Personally, I don't believe Ted Cruz to be eligible.
Or maybe Obama didn't show his birth certificate for so long because the birther sh*t was just that, without a bit of merit. That, and as it's doubtful that a white President would have to display his birth certificate, the notion that he should is simply insulting. And it is racist, as birthers all too often have been members of everything from Sons Of Confederate Veterans, to the Klan and Neo-Nazis, white supremacists and nationalist all. Even those who aren't affiliated with such groups more often than not hate the idea that we have a black President.
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