Aspergers and Mild autism the same thing?

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19 May 2016, 9:52 am

yes, i do find this odd how DSM have ventured away from following the ICD!.. Why after all these years of following ICD do they suddenly turn face and start writing their own versions of views based on what exactly?.. Also seems there is a possible financial connection with the insurance companies ( especially in the US which is ironic as this is DSM central!) also one of the ceo's of the DSM who has been writing the changes to Aspergers etc over the years resigned when the DSM V was changed as his view was the changed was based on a financial factor ... So you could have all the traits, however if you dont show special interest in certain things then you would fall under Social Communication Disorder again that is subjective to the views of the specialist you are seeing!) which ironically isnt covered by the insurance companies... just seems there are too many patterns involved in this area!, as more information is now being understood about the spectrum, more people are getting diagnosed which doesnt fare well for the insurance companies... So as argument If social communication Disorder is in replace of Aspergers/autism but yet the same individuals suffer in the same way and need the same support, why then is it not covered!? Seems much evidence points at a financial decision rather than a scientific one! just saying :)



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19 May 2016, 10:09 am

Wait, I thought only SCD is used if there are no repetitive and restricted behaviors but what if someone did that have but they didn't have enough off the social and communication deficits? Or what if they only had social deficits but not communication deficits? They can't go with the SCD then because they have repetitive and restrictive behaviors. Also the narrow interests are only one of the requirements to meet, you don't have ti fit it just as long as you fit at least the other two in that part of the ASD criteria. This is according to the ASD-5 criteria.

I do despise criterias because doctors make rules for what you need to meet to have them and that just makes people slip in between the cracks because then nothing fits them but yet they have an impairment and nothing fits. I am glad not all disorders have criterias.


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19 May 2016, 10:19 am

League_Girl wrote:
Wait, I thought only SCD is used if there are no repetitive and restricted behaviors but what if someone did that have but they didn't have enough off the social and communication deficits? Or what if they only had social deficits but not communication deficits? They can't go with the SCD then because they have repetitive and restrictive behaviors. Also the narrow interests are only one of the requirements to meet, you don't have ti fit it just as long as you fit at least the other two in that part of the ASD criteria. This is according to the ASD-5 criteria.

I do despise criterias because doctors make rules for what you need to meet to have them and that just makes people slip in between the cracks because then nothing fits them but yet they have an impairment and nothing fits. I am glad not all disorders have criterias.



yup, good question, hence the DSM has created more confusion and ontop of that its a new criteria that isnt globally known and therefore is subject to professional interpretation! its only now we/people are starting to learn and understand about Aspergers, now they want to change it to something 99.9% of the people on the planet have never heard of (again thats if you dont show the interests associated with the spectrum to the same degree, which again is subjective)... this is what my last psychologist said anyway which was funny (not) as she never really allowed me to express my interests!..So still feel it was more of a financial decision to change the criteria because as mentioned in the US there is no insurance coverage for this new Diagnosis... Should see how many parents are flaring up about this online as their sons/daughters diagnosis have been changed to the later!



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23 Jun 2016, 12:11 am

Lumi wrote:
I can't stand the words "lumped in".
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"Subsumed" any better?

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30 Jun 2016, 5:32 pm

I am hfa not asburgers because the hospital that go to does not dignose asburgers anymore