Aspergers and Mild autism the same thing?

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Are you crazy?

"Autist" is all TOO popular.

The term should be stamped out.

Its what illiterate folks say when they mean to use the word "autistic" as a noun . "Autistic" can be a noun as well as an adjective.

An "autistic" is someone with autism( and is autistic). Can be someone anywhere on the "autism spectrum".
Nothing wrong with the term.

When you speak of an autistic person its fine to call them "an autistic".

But when illiterate folks refer to "an autistic person" they will often say "an autist".

The trouble with the term "autist" is this:an "autist" would be to autism what an "artist" is to art, or what a "scientist" is to science. It would mean a person who purposely "does" autism as craft and as a profession for money.

The only reason a person would purposely DO autism for that reason would be if they were a NT who was scamming the taxpayer for benifits, and SSI, and the like by perfecting the craft of faking autism.

So unless you're accusing someone of pulling a medical scam I would NEVER call them an "autist"! Lol!

And also using the term "autist" just makes you sound like a knuckledragger. Or atleast it does to me.

I have problems but I don't feel Autistic one bit. I mean, the word "Autism" is from Greek meaning "self" (as what I have read once), and I am not usually selfish nor disinterested in other people, and I've never had difficulties recognizing emotions through body language. Even from a baby I was sociable, made eye contact, and loved attention from others, and as a toddler I was interested in other toddlers, by nature.

Thenn maybe your not autistic..???

The collequal terms High Functioning and mild are not the same thing although there is probably a lot of overlap. High Functioning as used by Autism experts refers to cognitive ability, specifically IQ over 70. Mild is just that relative lack of severity. Literal ability to function in society has nothing to do with how HFA is defined because in part ability to function in society is determined not just by severity by the general social environment and the autistics willpower and desire to be "normal" . And probably because autistics did not invent the non literal functioning labels.

I have a question.
I am reading a lot of posters on WP who are diagnosed with "Autism Spectrum Disorder Level 1 severity without intellectual disability and without language impairment" which is pretty much the old Aspergers Disorder diagnosis. Where is this coming from?

It's literally just a diagnoses in place since Aspergers was taken off the DSM.

I Was re-evaluated using my previous information from my original diagnoses and my current information and my psychologist and I both figured out that I definitely fit into the ASD level 1.

So in short it's coming from the DSM-V

But I ain't NT. Maybe I have a personality disorder. I don't know. I was diagnosed with AS at the age of 8, but I've always felt I was misdiagnosed. I know I have spectrum traits, but not Autism, but that probably doesn't make sense.

Sure it makes sense.

Maybe you're within the Broad Autism Phenotype (BAP).

Many people have autistic traits, while not being diagnosable with autism.

The APA has eliminated Asperger’s in the DSM-V but it is still a listed disorder in the World Health Organization's International Classification of Diseases.

http://apps.who.int/classifications/icd ... /en#/F84.5

i do not have contemporary knowledge on the subject, but i do remember what i was told by my psychiatrist when i was 12 (which was about 12 years before asperger syndrome was officially recognized).
she said that most people with autism have a syndrome that affects various forms of afferent neuronal feedback and also affects various areas of cognition, and most people with autism have a low IQ as well.
but she said that not all manifestations of autism are present in all autistic people, and in some, the IQ is not affected, and in those people, dependent on their native IQ, many contributions to society can be made.
that is how she described me to myself when she told me that i had a type of autism that was called "asperger syndrome" that was not yet acknowledged by the political governance of the diagnostic system.

so it is good not to have an impaired IQ, and so i guess autism without retardation is "milder" than austism with it.
in other ways it is equally severe however.

Oh yeah, I forgot BAP

BAP=[not recognized]=[not recognized]

Mark my words, autism definitions will become more and more diluted until the autism spectrum all but disappears. It will become as difficult to define as a person's race. No two people will have the same understanding of what anything means.

At the same time, autism mannerisms should become more acceptable and the notion of changing them should be more debated. Like how cultural manners of dress are debatable. Autistic strengths will be more recognized and envied. Some people will pretend to be on the autism spectrum. These kinds of things are natural processes in the rise of a minority culture.

Asperger's Diagnosis was removed from the DSM ever since 5th-Edition.
Now it's all lumped into being HFA. They consider it the same now.
Not that I believe in the DSM due to its pseudo-scientific determinations.

I can't stand the words "lumped in".

"Subsumed" any better?

Suggest looking at the WHO's ICD-10:

http://apps.who.int/classifications/icd ... se/2016/en

The APA's DSM-5 was written for psychiatrists in the US only. Read:

http://www.apa.org/monitor/2009/10/icd-dsm.aspx

Yep...Asperger's is still in the ICD-10.

yes, i do find this odd how DSM have ventured away from following the ICD!.. Why after all these years of following ICD do they suddenly turn face and start writing their own versions of views based on what exactly?.. Also seems there is a possible financial connection with the insurance companies ( especially in the US which is ironic as this is DSM central!) also one of the ceo's of the DSM who has been writing the changes to Aspergers etc over the years resigned when the DSM V was changed as his view was the changed was based on a financial factor ... So you could have all the traits, however if you dont show special interest in certain things then you would fall under Social Communication Disorder again that is subjective to the views of the specialist you are seeing!) which ironically isnt covered by the insurance companies... just seems there are too many patterns involved in this area!, as more information is now being understood about the spectrum, more people are getting diagnosed which doesnt fare well for the insurance companies... So as argument If social communication Disorder is in replace of Aspergers/autism but yet the same individuals suffer in the same way and need the same support, why then is it not covered!? Seems much evidence points at a financial decision rather than a scientific one! just saying