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Do you like Donald Trump?
Yes, and I'm American 11%  11%  [ 5 ]
Yes, and I'm not American 9%  9%  [ 4 ]
No, and I'm American 47%  47%  [ 21 ]
No, and I'm not American 33%  33%  [ 15 ]
Total votes : 45

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24 May 2016, 9:32 am

The more people try to slander him, bully home etc the more people are pushed to support him.

All of you who hate him are just causing him to be elected in. If you'd just shut up and left it alone I of the other republicans would of one. You're all the publicity he needs



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24 May 2016, 12:35 pm

sly279 wrote:
The more people try to slander him, bully home etc the more people are pushed to support him.

All of you who hate him are just causing him to be elected in. If you'd just shut up and left it alone I of the other republicans would of one. You're all the publicity he needs


I think his popularity has more to do with economic and social dislocation political correctness in the workplace then my opinion on Wrong Planet.


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24 May 2016, 12:38 pm

By you I meant people like you and the left. And left controlled media



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24 May 2016, 1:57 pm

I guess I shouldn't have said anything then. Well, time for Canada/US relations to go straight to Hell. :roll:


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24 May 2016, 1:59 pm

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I guess I shouldn't have said anything then. Well, time for Canada/US relations to go straight to Hell. :roll:


Trump would probably alpha-male the **** out of Trudeau :P

jk of course :wink:



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24 May 2016, 2:44 pm

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Kraichgauer obviously comes from a privileged background


Me, privileged? :lol: :P :lol: :P :lol: :P
I was raised in a working class home, and despite my higher education, my wife, child, and I live below the poverty line. Just because I don't fall for Trump's populist line of BS hardly means I'm privileged.


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24 May 2016, 2:57 pm

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He's potentially unleashing a wave of racial and religious bigotry that "political correctness" had kept in check for so long in most places in America,


Rigid adherence to the status quo, and political correctness run amok, are what spurred Trump's popularity in the first place. You are failing to notice what's below the surface -anger, disgust, rejection of the status quo, you don't seem to understand that people feel culturally and politically threatened, and Trump is the closest analog to this frustration. That's why they are ignoring his behavior, because he is viewed as one of them. If you don't understand that, then you are missing so much, and will never understand what or how this could be happening.

How is controlling the border considered racial bigotry? Illegal is not a race, skin color or ethnicity, it is a character trait of dishonesty.

Hillary is the choice only if your goal is the dismantling of the Constitution.


Many of Trump's supporters don't seem to make a distinction between legal and illegal Latinos, judging from their violence against Latino Americans - something which Trump doesn't care to discourage. When Trump supporters said their hero was right, after being arrested for physically assaulting a Mexican American homeless man, Trump's comment, when called on it was, "People are passionate about me!" Is it only a coincidence that Trump's been endorsed by not only David Duke, but also the current KKK Grand Dragon, the Daily Stormer, members of the racist Alternative Right or Alt Right, and others? In North Carolina, when polled, a large percentage of his supporters thought that not only did the wrong side win the Civil War, but that emancipation was a bad idea. No, not every Trump supporter is a racist, but a significant number are. As I said, he is potentially unleashing something loose in America that is ugly and dangerous. I'll take the status quo to that any day.


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24 May 2016, 3:06 pm

I personally would never vote for Trump, as I'm not a fan of bigotry, immaturity and fiscal irresponsibility.

But it would be a grave mistake for any future presidential candidate to not acknowledge why people are anti-establishment. They're tired of a do-nothing Congress, special interest lobbyists, anemic politicians and vague evasive sugarcoated speeches.

The era of John Kerry's, Michael Dukakis', and Jeb Bush's is over, and I won't lose sleep over that.



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28 May 2016, 10:21 pm

Sociopathic cult group leadership... YAY!! !! ! Follow follow follow... Follow the sociopath!! !

Will people ever learn???



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28 May 2016, 11:00 pm

mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
I wonder, what IS Trump's appeal anyway? Like why are so many people rooting for him?

I don't understand it either; I never seen someone showing so much arrogance. Guess arrogance is considered a "virtue" nowadays. :roll:
His discourse is very scary too; with how he intend to deport every jews muslims, blocking the frontier from roms, stop communist liberal media by going against speech right and other scary things.

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mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
I wonder, what IS Trump's appeal anyway? Like why are so many people rooting for him?

He's not Clinton . He's not a member of one of our "Royal political families"

He's not a republican or democrat both of which have been ruining this nation for centuries and don't give one s**t about the 300 million people who live here. He's a big f**k you to the establishment. He's the first real chance at change.

In the 30s Germany Hitler was the man going against the establishment; he brought his country toward ruin.



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28 May 2016, 11:05 pm

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mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
I wonder, what IS Trump's appeal anyway? Like why are so many people rooting for him?

I don't understand it either; I never seen someone showing so much arrogance. Guess arrogance is considered a "virtue" nowadays. :roll:
His discourse is very scary too; with how he intend to deport every jews muslims, blocking the frontier from roms, stop communist liberal media by going against speech right and other scary things.

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mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
I wonder, what IS Trump's appeal anyway? Like why are so many people rooting for him?

He's not Clinton . He's not a member of one of our "Royal political families"

He's not a republican or democrat both of which have been ruining this nation for centuries and don't give one s**t about the 300 million people who live here. He's a big f**k you to the establishment. He's the first real chance at change.

In the 30s Germany Hitler was the man going against the establishment; he brought his country toward ruin.


Trump never said he wanted to deport Muslims, he never said he wanted to deport all immigrants, these are lies

Foreign nationals that are in this country illegally especially criminals should go home, this is the policy that most of the world has

you're just repeating things that are not true, the establishment will say anything to maintain their grip on power



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28 May 2016, 11:55 pm

Jacoby wrote:
Tollorin wrote:
mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
I wonder, what IS Trump's appeal anyway? Like why are so many people rooting for him?

I don't understand it either; I never seen someone showing so much arrogance. Guess arrogance is considered a "virtue" nowadays. :roll:
His discourse is very scary too; with how he intend to deport every jews muslims, blocking the frontier from roms, stop communist liberal media by going against speech right and other scary things.

sly279 wrote:
mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
I wonder, what IS Trump's appeal anyway? Like why are so many people rooting for him?

He's not Clinton . He's not a member of one of our "Royal political families"

He's not a republican or democrat both of which have been ruining this nation for centuries and don't give one s**t about the 300 million people who live here. He's a big f**k you to the establishment. He's the first real chance at change.

In the 30s Germany Hitler was the man going against the establishment; he brought his country toward ruin.


Trump never said he wanted to deport Muslims, he never said he wanted to deport all immigrants, these are lies

Foreign nationals that are in this country illegally especially criminals should go home, this is the policy that most of the world has

you're just repeating things that are not true, the establishment will say anything to maintain their grip on power


No, he didn't say he'd deport Muslims. He said he wouldn't allow any of them to immigrate to, or even visit, America, till we figure out "why they hate us." Well, as most Muslims come to America looking for freedom and a better life, as all other immigrants have, it's hardly fair to describe all Muslims as hating us. And if we're going to put a hold on Middle Eastern immigration till we finally grasp why Islamic fanatics hate us so much, then that means that ban is going to be permanent, because figuring out something involves rationality and reason, while the hatred of fanatics is totally devoid of sense.


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28 May 2016, 11:59 pm

He's an ass, as well as a narcissist, an Archie Bunker-style bigot, and, despite what he promised, still a member of the 1% oligarchy that had run this country for the last 40 years.

If you think I'm for Billary Cl!t-tongue, guess again! She, like her husband, is a thief, a liar, a traitor, and a b!tch.

As for Sanders, I agree with what he's saying, mostly, but, since he's a Beltway insider, I don't trust him.

If it weren't for the fact the Rethiglicans threw him under the bus under Dubya's administration, and he's pretty much eschewed politics, I'd vote for Colin Powell in a heartbeat. At least he has some honor, respect, and honesty.



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29 May 2016, 12:14 am

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No, he didn't say he'd deport Muslims. He said he wouldn't allow any of them to immigrate to, or even visit, America, till we figure out "why they hate us." Well, as most Muslims come to America looking for freedom and a better life, as all other immigrants have, it's hardly fair to describe all Muslims as hating us. And if we're going to put a hold on Middle Eastern immigration till we finally grasp why Islamic fanatics hate us so much, then that means that ban is going to be permanent, because figuring out something involves rationality and reason, while the hatred of fanatics is totally devoid of sense.


It's mostly in response to the hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees they(Hillary) want to bring to this country, the FBI director himself said it was impossible to vet these people and we've seen how the security situation in Europe has deteriorated. We have the right to decide who can immigrate to this country, people that cannot integrate or hold extremist anti-American anti-western views should not be given consideration. That policy I don't think will ever come into effect and Trump's campaign surrogates basically say as much. Trump is about negotiation and he doesn't start with what he wants, he negotiates down to what he really wants.

I don't think Muslim immigration as it has been in this country has really been a problem as our Muslim population has done much much better than they have in socialist Europe where they live off welfare in ghettos that their police are afraid to even enter. We cannot allow refugees into this country, we're paying for letting in Somalians who are by far the most likely Americans to join ISIS and also a quarter of which have TB. Remember those Boston bombers were refugees too, there are even more attacks and attempted attacks by other refugees too.

The only people Trump has talked about deporting are foreign nationals, they are going to be sent back home unlike now where they can commit crimes and still be released out on the street. They have governments responsible for them, not us. If repatriation can't happen then we should tax any imports and remittance payments to that country until they do or to to pay for these people's stay here in this country. Hillary wants to eliminate our borders, she wants unlimited amnesty, she wants to start wars in the middle east and then bring millions of refugees to this country. They are going to build a permanent police state justified by a domestic terrorist threat, Europe is already lost.



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29 May 2016, 12:46 am

Jacoby wrote:
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No, he didn't say he'd deport Muslims. He said he wouldn't allow any of them to immigrate to, or even visit, America, till we figure out "why they hate us." Well, as most Muslims come to America looking for freedom and a better life, as all other immigrants have, it's hardly fair to describe all Muslims as hating us. And if we're going to put a hold on Middle Eastern immigration till we finally grasp why Islamic fanatics hate us so much, then that means that ban is going to be permanent, because figuring out something involves rationality and reason, while the hatred of fanatics is totally devoid of sense.


It's mostly in response to the hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees they(Hillary) want to bring to this country, the FBI director himself said it was impossible to vet these people and we've seen how the security situation in Europe has deteriorated. We have the right to decide who can immigrate to this country, people that cannot integrate or hold extremist anti-American anti-western views should not be given consideration. That policy I don't think will ever come into effect and Trump's campaign surrogates basically say as much. Trump is about negotiation and he doesn't start with what he wants, he negotiates down to what he really wants.

I don't think Muslim immigration as it has been in this country has really been a problem as our Muslim population has done much much better than they have in socialist Europe where they live off welfare in ghettos that their police are afraid to even enter. We cannot allow refugees into this country, we're paying for letting in Somalians who are by far the most likely Americans to join ISIS and also a quarter of which have TB. Remember those Boston bombers were refugees too, there are even more attacks and attempted attacks by other refugees too.

The only people Trump has talked about deporting are foreign nationals, they are going to be sent back home unlike now where they can commit crimes and still be released out on the street. They have governments responsible for them, not us. If repatriation can't happen then we should tax any imports and remittance payments to that country until they do or to to pay for these people's stay here in this country. Hillary wants to eliminate our borders, she wants unlimited amnesty, she wants to start wars in the middle east and then bring millions of refugees to this country. They are going to build a permanent police state justified by a domestic terrorist threat, Europe is already lost.


These people are the victims of terrorism in Syria, they are not terrorists themselves. Is there a possibility of terrorist fanatics among the refugees? Of course, but considering how thousands of them will almost certainly die if sent back, I think most Americans will open their hearts to these desperate people, especially since most opposition to their coming here is based on racial, religious, and nativist bigotry, which I think most Americans find repugnant..


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29 May 2016, 1:00 am

An overwhelming majority of Americans including Democrats oppose resettling Syrian refugees in this country as shown by every poll, it 100% is a security threat as ISIS can create fake identities and it's not just the threat of terrorism either as they have unleashed a wave of crime and violence in Europe. It's not a problem we should volunteer ourselves for, these refugees should go to the rich Arab Gulf countries who have taken exactly zero refugees ironically enough because they fear for their domestic security.