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@the walrus Sorry I got carried away

A Walrus actually still needs to tell me exactly how what a councillor said is satire when it happened for real.

Also, viewtopic.php?t=330987&p=7333419#p7333419 - if it's not unlocked then by its absurd definition of 24 hours, which was ages ago, I'll simply recreate it...

Seriously, this begs to be slightly more logical...

It wasn't exactly what he said, it was an absurd extrapolation of an already absurd comment.

Mootoo, seriously, just contain all your Trump stuff to a single thread. That way you can essentially post as much as you want without annoying people nearly as much; just make sure you stick to the rules about personal attacks against other users/groups and such. Create a thread called "why Trump should not be president" or something and post all your links in there and I will make an effort to stop it being locked for anything outside your control.

@Saveferris don't worry

Can we have a survivor style vote off the Island in PPR? I think I know who I and most other regulars on the board would vote for. I think the moderating in PPR is pretty terrible that it allows certain posters to ruin discourse, I have no idea how some have been tolerated so long. People that do not contribute to the board, only providing vitriol and hate with no hint of a coherent thought or constructive dialogue should have their posting privileges taken away. I think the board is tired of some deranged person screaming that about nazis, sexual fetishes, cults, and other bizarre insulting things. I literally got a board warning for saying 'dodo' once and this straight up abuse is allowed? Give me a break, the board is going to die with moderating like this. Congratulations on being so fair and balanced!

This is very thinly veiled and I don't think it's fair on "the individual" for us to talk about him in this way (although I'm not questioning the validity of your opinions).

I think he'd be pretty shocked to find out that people think he's been treated leniently. Certainly we get almost as many complaints from progressives that they're being persecuted as we do from more conservative posters.

I am as frustrated as anyone at the quality of the discussion and have been merging and locking low-quality threads to try and combat this. I don't think there's been a decline in the last few months though, I think it's stayed pretty steady but got a bit more frantic as the election looms. Individuals have been given longer leashes than perhaps was wise as long as they refrained from attacking individuals but I've definitely had my patience tested. After the election then the gloves will be off.

One strategy I've been trying has been to just leave ridiculous conspiracy threads hanging. This way they die natural deaths rather than getting locked and potentially causing the OP to feel persecuted.

Remember that this is first and foremost a support forum with entertainment secondary. Moderators will ensure the rules are enforced and the forum stays pleasant, but I don't think it's practical to become /r/NeutralPolitics or something similar.

http://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=331517

@The_Walrus: I know you said this thread was locked because people were attacking each other----but, I don't think I'll EVER understand that. To ME, ONLY the people who are fighting, should be chastised / counseled / whatever----when the thread is locked, that punishes EVERYBODY, IMO, who was participating on that thread. Yeah, it's more work----yeah, it's easier to just lock the thread----but, to NOT lock it, is more "for the good of the people", so-to-speak (meaning, there's more people who are "harmed" [for lack of a better word] when a thread is locked because TWO people, for instance, are fighting, and TEN others are participating on the thread).

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Regarding this last post, The_Walrus: "Quality", "low-quality" and "ridiculous", are subjective----and, again, I don't feel a Mod should be injecting their personal feelings into their moderation duties. Obviously, the person who started the threads didn't think it was a "low-quality" post----AND, if people responded to it, positively, THEY didn't think it was "low-quality", EITHER. BTW, if you've gotten several complaints about "low-quality" / "ridiculous" posts / threads, and because you agree with the complaints, decided you'd do something about it----that STILL doesn't justify it, IMO, cuz whomever's complaining, maybe shouldn't be IN PPR, cuz they're too thin-skinned----or, just shouldn't be a tattle-tale, and get over themselves. If I reported everybody / post in PPR that got on my nerves, the "Report" button would BLOW-UP!! People are just gonna have to learn to IGNORE what they don't like, and get over themselves----unless it's TERRIBLY egregious; but, we're talking-about "low-quality", here----that's the way it is, in the "in-person world".

Also, I'm thinking using the term "longer leashes", when referring to humans, might get ya in trouble.

This is not a support FORUM----it is a "support SITE". The forum rules are different in PPR:

"This is a special forum. It is for debating and as such pretty much anything goes provided it stays within the site rules and the following guidelines. It is more or less freedom of speech. It doesn't matter if some people have obnoxious or ill-informed opinions regarding politics, religion or virtually anything else.

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Provided people don't get too out of hand this forum is given a wide scope for debate; which frankly is what the members themselves want here, not moderators stepping in all the time censoring their opinions."

If I could TRIPLE-underline that last sentence, I WOULD. "Pleasant" is ALSO subjective----and, I'm thinking there are enough people in PPR who think that what has been going-on over there, lately (so many threads being locked / merged, posts being edited, and so-forth), is NOT "pleasant"; I'm thinking they have MORE tolerance / patience for the "ridiculous" threads, maybe, than they do with the Mods, right now.

@The_Walrus: Sure, I understand----but, just because it seems like / appears that I'm the only one complaining, doesn't actually mean I'm the only one complaining; it's just that I'm one of the few complaining, publicly. Most ASDers are not confronters----because I saw the reaction beginning-with when you changed that poster's title (actually, the cauldron, so-to-speak, had been fiercely bubbling before that, and that changing the title thing, made the cauldron boil-over), and because of the PMs I've gotten complaining about the Mods / PPR, I took it upon myself to give a voice to the voiceless, so-to-speak.

It's not only about ASDers not being confronters, though----the fear of getting banned, keeps people from speaking-out, also----AND, I've ALSO seen people complain to me, privately, and then PUBLICLY show support, for the Mods. (My theory is, one of the reasons they do this, maybe, is to show that they CAN be empathetic, since everybody accuses us, of NOT being so----and/or, they want to "jump to the rescue" of someone who they feel is being put-down, because no one did that, for THEM, all-the-times THEY were being put-down.) I've even gotten PMs from people, who have been following this thread from day-one (or, nearly), and say "Say THIS" / "ask them THIS" / and, so-on. The only ones I've DIRECTLY obeyed, so-to-speak, were the ones asking why a thread had been locked in PPR.

Can I prove any of this? No----but, because I don't believe-in "outting" people (breaking their anonymity); just like, I'm sure, you wouldn't divulge who is supportive of you / the Mods, cuz you don't think that's proper. (I've told several people that I would NEVER repeat what they told me, unless I thought they were hurting someone.)

I've never, as long as I've been here, done this (come-forward, publicly, in a negative way, about a Mod[s]; MANY times I've given "hugs" to Mods, thanked Mods, said "Good job" to Mods, and so-forth, but never anything negative); so, the fact that I'm doing it now, should say something----that I felt the PEOPLE needed a voice. There have been many, MANY people who have said, PUBLICLY, "Nobody here cares about us" (or, something like that----meaning, nobody cares about the long-time users and how they feel about the site, etc.)----going-back YEARS, to when, for instance, Alex first put-up the pictures of this site's re-vamp (like, SIX years ago, IIRC), and people, very RESPECTFULLY, expressed how they didn't care for all the white, for instance (how it hurt their eyes, and so-forth). Over the years, as I've observed still others expressing "Nobody cares about us here", I have taken it in / taken it, to heart----and, THAT'S why I'm doing this.

Sheesh....

We're still on about changing the poster titles?

Why did this thread get locked?

http://wrongplanet.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=333818

Thanks, ahead of time.