Trump "gives" to charity with other peoples money

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24 Sep 2016, 9:41 pm

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He used charity money to buy portraits of himself; somehow he can still surprise me with his depravity... :roll:


You reckon people vote for narcissism due to being paralyzed by their own reflection in the water themselves?



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02 Oct 2016, 7:09 pm

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Clinton Foundation in comparison

brings in $176M in revenue in 2014, spent $5.1M on charity, $35M on salary, and $50M on 'other'

not much better in 2013

can you say SLUSHFUND?



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02 Oct 2016, 7:19 pm

Paying taxes supports services and defence for your country as a whole, though Trump said evading them was "smart". So is he going to make America smart again and stop taxation?! Remember that terrible comment from a famous tax evading criminal : "taxes are for little people"?

Trump likes to portray himself as a generous benefactor, but what he does and what he says don't align as far as I can see. The very many different reasons he has used as to why he can't or won't release his tax returns go way back before the email scandal, so I hope no-one responds with that tired old "tu croque" stuff.



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02 Oct 2016, 7:23 pm

B19 wrote:
Paying taxes supports services and defence for your country as a whole, though Trump said evading them was "smart". So is he going to make America smart again and stop taxation?! Remember that terrible comment from a famous tax evading criminal : "taxes are for little people"?

Trump likes to portray himself as a generous benefactor, but what he does and what he says don't align as far as I can see. The very many different reasons he has used as to why he can't or won't release his tax returns go way back before the email scandal, so I hope no-one responds with that tired old "tu croque" stuff.


Hillary has also avoided paying taxes in recent years using the same 'scheme'

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-0 ... heme-trump

also the NYT which reported this, paid no taxes in 2014



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02 Oct 2016, 7:24 pm

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... ndation-c/
"Although it has ‘foundation’ in its name, the Clinton Foundation is actually a public charity," Brian Mittendorf, a professor of accounting at Ohio State University’s Fisher College of Business, wrote in the Chronicle of Philanthropy. "In practical terms, this means both that it relies heavily on donations from the public and that it achieves its mission primarily by using those donations to conduct direct charitable activities, as opposed to providing grants from an endowment.

"Failure to understand the difference led to the widespread claim (covered by the New York Post, Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, and others) that only a small portion of Clinton Foundation spending goes toward charity. While measuring charitable endeavors by the amount of grants awarded may be appropriate for many private foundations, it is not for an organization that acts as a direct service provider like the Clinton Foundation."



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02 Oct 2016, 7:31 pm

Jacoby wrote:
B19 wrote:
Paying taxes supports services and defence for your country as a whole, though Trump said evading them was "smart". So is he going to make America smart again and stop taxation?! Remember that terrible comment from a famous tax evading criminal : "taxes are for little people"?

Trump likes to portray himself as a generous benefactor, but what he does and what he says don't align as far as I can see. The very many different reasons he has used as to why he can't or won't release his tax returns go way back before the email scandal, so I hope no-one responds with that tired old "tu croque" stuff.


Hillary has also avoided paying taxes in recent years using the same 'scheme'

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-0 ... heme-trump

also the NYT which reported this, paid no taxes in 2014


Before addressing this particular tu croque, can you tell me if Clinton has released her tax returns or not?



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02 Oct 2016, 7:38 pm

BTDT wrote:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/aug/25/reince-priebus/reince-priebus-false-claim-80-clinton-foundation-c/


http://thefederalist.com/2016/09/16/cli ... ants-2014/

this goes on the explain the issues with this defense



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02 Oct 2016, 7:40 pm

Would still like to know:

can you tell me if Clinton has released her tax returns or not?



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02 Oct 2016, 7:55 pm

http://www.guidestar.org/FinDocuments/2 ... e98d-9.pdf

read thru the document and find where the cash goes, it is more detailed the image I posted

I'm looking at at the statement of functional expenses

$4.1M in grants to domestic organizations
little less than $1M in grants foreign organizations
$2.2M in compensation to "current officers, directors, trustees, and key employees"
$24.9M in 'other salaries and wages'
$1.1M in pensions
$4M in other employee benefits
$2.4M in payroll taxes
$205k in legal fees
$460k in accounting
$850k in professional fundraising services
$7M in 'other expenses'
$400k in advertising and promotion
$2M in office expenses
$2M in information technology
$4.6M in occupancy
$7.8M in travel
$12.6M in conferences, conventions, and meetings
$5.3M in depreciation, depletion, and amortization
$448k in insurance
$295k in mailing and list rental expenses
$462k in exhibits and fixtures
$2M loss on program related investments
$2.8M in other program expenses

So where is all that charity now? Program services huh? Read it for yourself! Follow the money!

Shows how dishonest politifact is by the way, they had access to the same information



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02 Oct 2016, 8:13 pm

According to the BBC:

The Clintons have disclosed tax returns for every year since 1977.


http://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37062123



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02 Oct 2016, 9:16 pm

Politicians and government all derive their incomes from armed robbery and extortion, and upper management doesn't get paid for working but for setting up one sided contracts with numerous people who actually do the work which they leech off of. Sadly, this is normal.


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