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I thought Trump was trying sabotage his bid for the presidency, late last year, by spewing so much ridiculous s**t; that he just wanted some media attention, but never intended to get gain so much support. Whether or not that is true, he is certainly serious now. He wants the power and prestige!

That's because it's an empty campaign slogan rather than a policy.

No it isn't.

His promise to enact racist policies? His economic incompetence? His foreign policy incompetence? His general incoherence? His stupidity? His persistent lies?

This is very broad but sure, I think everyone acknowledges that Clinton has been in a couple of minor scandals and has made some mistakes. 1/3.

No he isn't - he is opposed to free trade, the single greatest way to increase living standards. He advocates for punishing tariffs which will harm America. 1/4.

No he isn't. He has angered many of America's allies, he shows a complete lack of understanding of many foreign policy issues, he is supported by Vladimir Putin, he supported the Iraq War. He has called for nuclear proliferation. He wants 30,000 American troops in Syria. He is pro-torture. 1/5.

No he isn't. He opposes abortion and wants to defund Planned Parenthood and overturn Roe vs Wade. He wants to ban political protest and make it illegal to criticise him, in breach of the First Amendment. He wants American citizens accused of crimes to face military tribunals. He supports overturning legislation preventing discrimination against LGBT people.

Trump supports surveillance of people on the grounds of religion, going beyond the draconian hypothetical put to him by an interviewer and lying in order to justify it. He supports a crackdown on legal pornography, promising to "give serious consideration to appointing a Presidential Commission to examine the harmful public health impact of Internet pornography on youth, families and the American culture". He supports the PATRIOT act. He is opposed to women joining the military. He supports mandatory death penalties, which are unconstitutional. He supports mandatory minimum sentences for gun crime. His views on drugs are inconsistent and hard to pin down. Although he has sometimes expressed liberal opinions on medical marijuana, he has generally been hardline on drugs and in 2015 he told Sean Hannity that he "feels strongly" about opposing marijuana legalisation. He favours internet censorship and is opposed to Net Neutrality. He wants to ban violence in video games.

Trump supports the right to carry guns, whether that is "liberal" or not depends on your definition.

Overall, though, Trump's social policies are extremely conservative and authoritarian. Some of them might be popular amongst Americans but that doesn't stop them being conservative and authoritarian. 1/6.

As addressed above, there are several occasions where he has promised to do the opposite. Analysis suggests he would move the Supreme Court to the most conservative position in living memory. 1/7.


Many Republicans have already abandoned the party and Trump regularly attacks members of his party. 1/8.

No comment. 1/9.

Half a mark. Neither Trump nor Clinton is likely to do much for these areas.

The media is biased against Trump because it accurately reports his words!

Overall truth rating: 15%.

Being President would allow to stick it to his enemies--maybe even start another expensive war.

He would look weak if he didn't do that. That simply won't happen.

If Trump believes in equality for all, why is it that so many white supremacists are drawn to him like flies to a pile of sh*t? I would think they see something in his message appealing to their deplorable ideology. You can size up a candidate by his supporters, a great many of whom are either horrifically uninformed, and/or are expecting something terrible to happen to all the people they hate once that narcissistic wind bag with a dead orangatang stapled to his head gets elected.

I don't think this is a good argument. Trump is opposed to free trade, but I am sure many free trade Republicans will end up voting for him.

Maybe white supremacists also have other views which Trump has - for example, an opposition to immigration, free trade, and non-Christian religions, or even an expansion of Obamacare. Maybe they're sexists who would never vote for Clinton. Maybe they think he'd be easier to manipulate than Clinton. Maybe their picture of him is inaccurate.

There are all kinds of reasons why someone might vote for someone who has some values which contradict theirs. For example, if I were American then I'd be voting for Clinton even though she is opposed to free trade.

Trump actually looks good on paper, much more sane the Hillary's approach. Problem is Trump has always been rich and because of this he shows no restraint on what he says and looks like an idiot. However, before anyone decides to not vote for Trump, I would recommend ignoring what he says and look at the stance of his policies. When he opens his mouth I cringe, however, like I said he looks decent on paper. Either way though, Hillary is criminal and Trump is an idiot. I can't pick really cause they both have problems.

Trump just doesn't give off the IMAGE of being a President. He is not respected in the international community.

Please remember: even really bad people have had some decent policies.

Hitler had some good policies LOL--the only problem: He didn't care too much for Jews.

One DOES have to look at the person as well as the ideas.

Well kraftiekortie, if everything else you have said has fallen on deaf ears, at least that made sense to me.

In fact historically speaking, Hitler was well loved before he lost his mind and before he got into power. I also kind of see a parallel between the Jews and everyone Trump hates.

I'm not meaning to say that all his supporters are white supremacists, but rather, the fact that he has attracted a significant number of them to his cause should make one ask why.

Call it an empty campaign slogan but it more the Hillary and the Hillary campaign themselves said their strategy was to make the election a referendum on Donald Trump. Trump's policies are not racist or 'economically incoherent', it's not policy that the billionaire hedge fund owners like but much like Brexit we'll be seeing in a few months that the common man will have come out ahead. Cosmopolitan elitists are not the only lives that matter.

Trump is strong with foreign policy while Hillary is unbelievably weak, she can receive as much blame or more than any one for the current state of the middle east and her interventionist policies of the past will not keep us safe nor can we afford it. Trump being willing to use personal diplomacy(something Hillary can't do since she is only hated behind closed doors) is a huge, he showed his potential in doing with his trip to Mexico.

He didn't support the Iraq War, he made quite a few statements at the time to a lot more credible sources than Howard Stern and one should remember that Trump received the same information that everyone else got while Hillary was privy to the intelligence reports and personally went to bat to advocate for the invasion, to try to say 'look Trump supported Iraq too!' because some off hand comment where he responded "I guess so, I don't know..." There are later comments and within the first week of the invasion Trump had come out strongly against the war which to do then when it was a spectacular success meant you opposed the war.

@ Hillary only being involved in a few 'minor scandals and made some mistakes' naw dude she's a straight up criminal.

You grasp at straws to oppose Trump for anything nevermind that if Hillary is no alternative, I imagine you are pretty ignorant of America and this election because of the foreign media you consume naturally so I won't hold it against you.

Trump most definitely is good on trade rather than the "free traders" who have raped our the manufacturing sectors of our company, protectionism does work as evidence by Asia. I do not care about lifting any more third worlders out of poverty so my living standards can stagnate and fall, we don't want a humanitarian or corporatist trade policy but rather one that puts the American worker first.

He isn't going to ban porn, I believe he said something about child porn on the internet once but your spank bank is safe.

Trump's foreign policy is great, it stands up for American interests. Nobody cares about Justin Trudeau's hurt fufus. A better relationship with Russia and China is imperative and Trump is the only person that bring that about. Hillary wents to continue on sabre rattling against Russia like it is the Cold War. If you are actually concerned about RELEVANT world leaders think then Trump's pretty well liked, the biggest chance of nuclear war is with Russia or China so obviously the bigger risk with these countries would be electing Hillary Clinton.

Good, I oppose abortion and think Planned Parenthood should be defunded until they stop preforming abortions. Other women's health providers can be found.

A lot of the nonsense you are repeating simply isn't true or read way into in a totally incorrect way. He's going to ban protests against him really? How? It's silly. Trump has said that he supports state's rights on most issues so his opinions on certain things are just opinions, he has been consistent with this especially in regard to marijuana legalization. Trump is bound the powers of his office, trying to play him up as a boogeyman Hitler is just as dishonest and desperate as one can be. Nobody cares about the NeverTrump people, they could not be more minuscule and irrelevant. They made fools of themselves.

There are no genuine Hillary supporters, just partisan hacks and the easily led astray.

also just respond to my post like a normal post, i seriously hate the people that feel the need to break down a post into 10 little quotes, usually omitting parts they don't want to address too. Just quote the entire post or answer me directly, I don't like the fisking game.

Believe I included your whole post. I had little choice but to fisk it because it was a pack of lies which needed to be debunked individually.

You have no grounds to accuse anyone else of being ignorant when you seemingly don't know the first thing about the candidate that you blindly support.

wrt. free trade, could you be a bit more specific than "protectionism is good because ASIA!"? There is almost universal agreement amongst economists that it is a good thing. You can see it quite clearly in Asia, where the countries that liberalised their economies are now doing really well and those that were trapped under Communism are relatively worse off. Capitalism broadly works and should be supported. Yes, in the specific case of free trade deals with countries with lower labour costs, some jobs may be lost due to outsourcing. As the economy as a whole will benefit, we should make free trade work for everyone by channelling some of that money back into the communities that have lost, by investing in infrastructure to create jobs and attract investment. We shouldn't destroy our own economies on principle. Protectionism is bad for most Americans, free trade is good for nearly everyone and can be made good for everyone.

A friend of a friend works at the Washington Post and transcribes Trump speeches word-for-word. They get plastered all over my social media. That's the main way I'm interacting with the election. By reading the things that Trump says. On an American website.


Abortion is a massive social good. It's arguably as good as free trade. That's before we get onto the gross injustice of trying to control other people's bodies, which is a regressive policies from the dark days of the world.


Again, I'm mostly going off direct and unambiguous statements he has made.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... rotesters/
""I hope these guys get thrown into a jail, they'll never do it again. It'll destroy their record. They'll have to explain to mom and dad why they have a police record and why they can't get a job. And you know what? I'm going to start pressing charges against all of these people. And then we won't have a problem."

He wants the state to crack down on political protests. That's hard to spin.


Fair point. He has said that he is absolutely opposed to recreational marijuana being legalised but would support a state that voted for it. That's fairly liberal for a Republican.


It really isn't though, is it? If the media weren't so biased in his favour then the comparison would be all over the place. He is exploiting the fear of the uneducated who feel that they have been persecuted by creating boogeymen (Muslims and Mexicans) and whipping up hatred. He is self-serving and divisive, he does not care about anyone but himself and his policies will do huge damage to one of the greatest countries that there has ever been. He is an evil, evil man. We should not be afraid of telling the truth, even if Trump's poor supporters are blind to it. It is our moral duty to denounce Trumpism in all its forms.


They are good people who are going to make sure that Trump never holds the Presidency and turns the greatest country in the world into an elitist, exclusive hellhole from the 1950s with a broken economy.

Trump just admitted President Obama is in fact a natural born American citizen. He claims while Clinton had started this whole cesspool of birther lies, he says he ended it. He never, ever addressed how his whole political career started with the racist birther crap, or why now he chose to change his mind on it.

There's a lot of bitter resentment towards Republicans. I don't disagree with the passing of the Civil Rights Act but I disagree with agencies of the executive branch fining people without due process in a court of law.

To covet one's wealth is to envious that they have that wealth and that you don't. This is so wrong. Everyone should be able to work and find a job and that's how they should be able to eventually become wealthy thru hard work and investing their money wisely. Trump will change how things operate and will allow people to grow their wealth this way. I'm aboard the Trump train.

Capitalism has really brought people out of poverty. The Reagan years and the Bill Clinton centrist years lead to a lot of wealth and job creation for everyone, not just the wealthy. As we have had more crony capitalism under the Bush and Obama administrations, we have had wage stagnation and wealth decline. We cannot continue this crony capitalism but need the government to get out of the way. Hillary Clinton's stance to appeal to Bernie supporters will be a lot more liberal and will destroy wealth. There's 8 more million people on food stamps, 20% is out of the labor force, and 1/6 of people are either living in their parents basement or in prison. We don't need a continuation of the last 16 years.

To call someone racist because the believe in capitalism is entirely misguided and shows your immaturity. People ought to be able to disagree with you and you ought to accept that. This is a free country and should stay that way.

I don't think Kraichgauer said anything about capitalism at all. That's a ridiculous and obvious straw man. He called Trump a racist because of his persistent lies about Obama being born outside of America. This was clearly racially motivated.

Although it should be pointed out that Trump has personally continued to refuse to comment on where he thinks Obama was born. Someone from his campaign had to do it for him.

Although capitalism has the ability to end poverty - it's probably the best tool we have for ending poverty - it's obviously not true that hard work will just magically make you wealthy. Lots of people work extremely hard but never become wealthy. You need a big slice of luck, a good idea, and a society around you that supports you. For most people, capitalism takes them out of poverty and into a comfortable existence, not wealth.

Trump's also repeatedly expressed an opposition to free trade, which is the cornerstone of economics. Clinton unfortunately has followed his lead, but if you want capitalism then you'll need to vote third party in 2016.

What's racist about the birther idea? Race has nothing to do with it.