Forgetting the Holocaust

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Just look at the movies of the bodies being burned in the crematories in the death camps.

I don't care if it was 6 million, 60 million, or 1.6 million---

It's the fact of Genocide.

I saw those films when I was 12 years old.

Then I heard footsteps over me in the dining hall (I was in summer camp).

I got really sick because, in my imagination, those footsteps were being led to the gas chambers.

Sorry I got so graphic.

...Says the f*****g racist.

Yes it affected many.

"Never forget"

I don't know skysaw, I have no idea if he is a racist of not. Certainly there isn't enough evidence to come to the conclusion from his post.

One thing is for certain is the figure of 6 million is not arrived at just due to one person's opinion. 6 million is a rough figure but all the evidence from multiple source confirms this is a good estimate.

The idea that large number of people, can't be accounted for is laughable. It is something not that difficult to prove.

There is demographic data, direct evidence the nazis left, witness accounts on both sides, fist/second an third party. figures of the despora.

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/features/ ... m-1.540880

Most of the Holocaust deniers don't say, "ah only 4 million". For them that is too high to justify. They typically argue in the thousands, or hundreds of thousands and justify it for other reasons other than genocide.

U mad bro?

(*My emphasis.)

It is my opinion of witch hunts and purges, that they implode or cannibalize themselves.

imhblo, they work their way up the social foodchain, to affect the administrators, until people like Hilter himself would be acussed of Jewish interests.

There is a saying that, when you have a hammer, every problem starts to look like a nail.

Infighting, then, will be settled with the use of your favorite trope, as a matter of Murphy's Law. It happened in Berlin, and it happened in Salem. We decided to make the war on drugs the answer to all ills, then were accused of trafficking. We blamed everything on terrorists, then said to give them social promotions.

The broad brush or hammer you use on others will come back to haunt you, every time.

Having looked through skysaw posts, he falls into drinking the "white genocide" cool-aid. On the other hand SJWs play into these peoples' hands, by banging on about "white privilege" despite the fact that there are large number of uneducated whites living relative poverty

However "white genocide" doesn't meet the definition of genocide by a long shot and their conspiracy is pretty stupid becuase they fail to take responsibility for their own cultural decline.

Judaism is not a race this can be proven by modern genetics. The lost tribes theory, and the common origin theory don't hold up well, when you consider all the variation (e.g. Ethiopian jews, etc). Yes there are genetic profile of various Jewish group, but Judaism itself is not a race.

It is an ethno-religious group, with several sub cultures and ethnicities.

The caucasus is closer to the middle east than Northern Europe. The Caucasian ancestors traveled to both locations and the semitic peoples are a mostly Caucasian.

Levantine people including the Jews and Arabs that came from there are Semitic and Caucasian

There is no such thing as pure race and never has been.

Whiteness is not an indicator of race, there are far eastern Asians that are as paler than some Caucasians/

I dislike simplistic thinking too, but these will always be popular becuase people like simple answers.

Actually, the ICC has a definition of genocide, along the lines of artificially causing reproduction to fall short of the replacement rate.

I think it doesn't strictly pertain to shooting people into a mass grave, because, before that can happen, there is a removal of legal personhood.

You know, I have lived in the same spot for 30yrs, and most of my white neighbors have moved away, died, and not been replaced by people who look like them.

You can make moral arguments for and against that, but what has happened genetically, or to one ethnicity.

You have the effective removal of one people group, by red lining and legal prejudices.


Firstly, due to historical purges, there have been tens of thousands of independent, genetic tests. I have taken several and fit speculative, genetic profiles, for what is a Jewish person.

The Falasha have not been well-regarded in Israel. Messianics are wasting their money, under false pretenses, to have Ethiopians sterilized and sent back. Common sense should have sufficed, here.

Respectfully, this was only half of my point. Those simplistic answers seem to boomerang.

I am fair skinned, automatically considered smart and rich, but still a minority, on a technicality.

I am apprehensive about the treatment of minorities, even when that is somewhat-deserved. I favor restraint and altruism, when, maybe, that is not the best way to deal with aggressive people.

Many times, Jewish people will promote an underdog, even when he is undeserving.

I have read that extant Nazi records fail to account for 11 million deaths in the concentration camps of the German Reich. Moreover, the "six-million" Jewish deaths is mysterious to some historians. Even the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum (USHMM) fudges a little when it describes the figure as "up to 6 million" at its web-site article ( https://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.ph ... d=10008193 ) about "Documenting Numbers of Victims of the Holocaust and Nazi Persecution" which goes on to describe fairly how "[t]here is no single wartime document that contains the above cited estimates of Jewish deaths."

Then, of course, there are the claims that suggest various "neat" figures with many pre-WWII writings from the Talmud to Reader's Digest. In my opinion, they are correct, but woefully inaccurate compared to the USHMM descriptions.

Historical revisionism says that cultural aliens and social undesirables, were collected for trial and deportation.

Financial sabotage and war, fought on many fronts, resulted in shortage and disease.

National socialists, their lookalikes, and sympathizers admit to the same basic charges, as at Nuremberg, then use histrionics as a means of culture jamming.

Let's assume that you have no past. The slate is cleaned. Your worldview has spontaneously arisen, from the void.

What do you holocaust deniers want, in the here-and-now.

What are you taking from us, beside the mental energy.

What are you prepared to provide.

Most people will drool to the sound of Pavlov's bell, and the rest is just musak, whether it's the specious history of cutting down cherry trees, or Hitlerian fairytales about rainbows and ghosts.

I would agree 0ET. Why leave the other millions out? From my perception it's because of thier Culture.

Seeing is how Judaism influenced most of the worlds major religions. So many people pay homage to the Jews but yeah we should never forget the others that were slaughtered

It worries me that the story of the concentration camps was so oversimplified in schools. The fact that the Nazis also killed the handicapped, the gay and the mentally ill so perfectly illustrates what is so wrong with their world view. But those victims came from all sorts of ethnic groups, including Germans.

One thing I find shameful is the way the suffering of the Roma has been overlooked. This probably has to do with the fact that nobody knows how to deal with the gypsy lifestyle. But I recall reading the story of a Roma woman who was horribly abused by her parents, and, guess what, they both spent their teenage years in in concentration camps. I'm sure they learned a lot.

Lest it be forgotten, the very first people sent to concentration camps were the Nazi's political enemies, as well as gays, and anyone else considered to be unfit in Germany for the thousand year Reich.