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03 Jan 2017, 6:36 am

That's really disappointing. I've just accepted I am transgender and I was looking for a community to join. I came to Wrong Planet because it's been so helpful during the diagnosis process of my autism and was just such a great support network when the people I lived with either denied or downplayed my symptoms.

I've been getting the feeling that some feminists who are ok with homosexuality seem to be against transgender and are doing their very best to discourage me. I've spent my whole life being pressured into being something I'm not, either to fit a gender stereotype or to disguise my autism, and I've been hated for various interests and political views I've had. No one can really stop me from being me.

Oh, I just read the last couple of posts. Dammit.


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03 Jan 2017, 3:13 pm

The truth is that there is no single, united LGBT community. The extent to which there is such a thing differs from place to place.



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07 Jan 2017, 1:00 pm

I've been really turned off by the LGBTQ+ community at times and have chosen to stay away for the most part. I feel it makes it all the more difficult to find partners on top of having Asperger's. It's frustrating.



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08 Jan 2017, 12:28 pm

"males gaining at the expense of females by pretending to be one of us "
I have a sense that historically at least people born male and making transition to female have tended to loose . those making gains have been a minority. Avoiding being dismissed from work or having a client base evapourate was very much up to chance and fortune and protection in law is a comapratively recent and welcome change.

One reason I suspect a great many transwomen have transitioned quite late in life, so as to have some sort of security built up in savings, a home at least partly paid for and so forth.

I could immagine an equally forthright point of view against Transmen, claiming they were Women fraudulently claiming male privilege by pretending to be men, and again I suspicion is that actual experience would not actually match that point of view.



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02 Mar 2017, 8:09 pm

I am gay and like everything else in my life I don't fit here either. Having Asperger's syndrome meeting people is difficult enough. In general I don't associate with the gay community. Way too much group think, a lot of airheads, and if you don't do it there way then your not "in the club".

I find it to be very single minded and shallow. I'm not one for clubs as I cant deal with noise and have no one really to go with. Part of me wishes I had a BF but just not sure I could ever find some compatible with me and my issues.



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03 Mar 2017, 5:13 pm

This was pretty much my experience with the Gay community as well. When I was 19 and had left home for the first time to go to university, I became immersed in the community because I felt free for the first time, but I quickly learned that I had just as little in common with other gay people as I do with any other group (generally). lol It was a hard thing to learn unfortunately, and kind of demoralising. Mind you, this was 16 years ago now, and the nature of the community has changed quite a lot, but at that time, it seemed to be all about going clubbing and drinking and doing hard drugs--basically all things that I had no interest in. I actually remember having a conversation with a guy who mentioned something about cocaine, and I responded by saying that I'd never touch the stuff, at which point he proceeded to tell me that I was young, and everyone always says that, but eventually they try it and like it. lol Hate to break it to that dude, wherever he may have (or may not have) ended up, but I STILL have no interest in cocaine. lol So yeah, I fell out of love with the "community" within a year of being on my own I would say. At this point in my life though, I'm pretty okay with that. It makes more sense to me to surround yourself with people who share common interests and the same fundamental values as you rather than people who are just of the same sexuality. This isn't to say that the LGBTQ community doesn't serve a purpose or anything, especially for someone having trouble coming to terms with themselves and in need of support in that way. Having a common struggle can be something to rally around and all, but I don't know, sometimes that's not enough. This might be especially true with people on the spectrum who are also LGBTQ.


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03 Mar 2017, 5:25 pm

randomeu wrote:
I didnt see what you meant at first, but yeah, i cant seem to share an opinion on websites like openclosets.com without getting a huge lecture on politics or how wrong i am. but to be fair i have some strange opinions.


All I got from that link was spam from closet makers..



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05 Mar 2017, 7:21 am

Thank you hatsrobrageous.
Very interesting discussion.



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14 Mar 2017, 8:41 pm

I haven't made any attempts at dating or really getting involved, I usually just end up being ignored or treated weird. The whole drinking and drugs thing no thanks.



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15 Mar 2017, 2:35 am

1027brianfm wrote:
I usually just end up being ignored or treated weird. .

The same



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20 Mar 2017, 5:10 pm

I don't find the community hostile, but most LGBT people I know are extroverts who are good at expressing emotions and that can be hard for me to fit in.


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24 Mar 2017, 12:37 pm

Because it's s**t.

The homosexual movement is one of the worst movements ever. It's terribly organized and it will never succeed.



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24 Mar 2017, 4:10 pm

Kovu wrote:
Because it's s**t.

The homosexual movement is one of the worst movements ever. It's terribly organized and it will never succeed.


Lol it already succeeded. Gay people can legally marry in USA and Canada, and I am sure that is coming in other countries as well, ok maybe not terrorist countries.


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27 Mar 2017, 6:00 am

Kovu wrote:
Because it's s**t.

The homosexual movement is one of the worst movements ever. It's terribly organized and it will never succeed.


"One of the worst movements ever." What does that even mean? lol And what it is that you think they're trying to accomplish that they haven't yet? Total world domination or something? lol


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27 Mar 2017, 10:48 pm

I personally think that the LGBT community can be hostile but I think it is due to most of them being NT to begin with as in the non-LGBT population. Furthermore, I think the antisocial behavior comes from a more domineering personality as most people unfortunately most people aren't very libertarian in their worldview. Due to their nature authoritarian people will be more unaccepting overall (become one of us or don't come at all) and I don't think there's an exception even among LGBT people.



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29 Mar 2017, 3:19 pm

Kovu wrote:
Because it's s**t.

The homosexual movement is one of the worst movements ever. It's terribly organized and it will never succeed.


haha!

no....THE nature is sнiт... :skull:
btw i'm not gay ... :Djust interested in socium