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cyberdad
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25 Dec 2016, 10:35 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
And it was just that Soviet (Russian) Empire that Putin wants to restore, as he sees the loss of Russian prestige and power following the end of the Cold War as his country's greatest tragedy.


An ironic similarity
http://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/yes-adol ... 1789261081
http://europe.newsweek.com/putin-danger ... 5550?rm=eu
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... soundbites



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25 Dec 2016, 10:43 pm

cyberdad wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
And it was just that Soviet (Russian) Empire that Putin wants to restore, as he sees the loss of Russian prestige and power following the end of the Cold War as his country's greatest tragedy.


An ironic similarity
http://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/yes-adol ... 1789261081
http://europe.newsweek.com/putin-danger ... 5550?rm=eu
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... soundbites


Beware of those who say they want to make the country great, be it Putin or Trump, because there might be something ugly behind that slogan.


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25 Dec 2016, 10:47 pm

In order to achieve "greatness" in the narcissistic tone of Trump or Putin there is a cost in terms of pain and sacrifice
We know who will carry that burden in Trump's America



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26 Dec 2016, 1:27 pm

I read the book "The theory of social revolution" by Brooks Adams 1913.

He studied the history of social revolutions. He said that about every three generations, the ruling class losses the ability to effectively manage society and revolution results.

when he said "manage society" it is devoid of a moral judgement whether that management is either good or bad for the people.

A generation is usually considered to be 20-30 years, so 60-90 years ago was there some large social upheaval?

WWI, WWII, Russian revolution, Maoist China, Korean War, Vietnam.

What are we in for in the coming years?


Brooks Adams, The Thoery of Social Revolution
https://archive.org/stream/theoryofsoci ... 5/mode/2up