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23 Jan 2017, 11:25 am

http://www.autismsupportnetwork.com/new ... le-5728933


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24 Jan 2017, 11:04 am

Yea ... at this point I literally feel like if any of you voted for Trump, just don't even talk to me.



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24 Jan 2017, 11:31 am

What she wrote is the worst case scenario. It could happen in this country with its history of eugenics acceptance. By even rolling back the progress a little would upset me because it was this progress that allowed me to get diagnosed.


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27 Jan 2017, 11:14 am

I'm fairly sure his son has Autism. Did anyone see his son's body language during his Victory speech?

I can't post links as a new user so Google it.


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27 Jan 2017, 12:33 pm

RationalMadman wrote:
I'm fairly sure his son has Autism. Did anyone see his son's body language during his Victory speech?

I can't post links as a new user so Google it.


Based on a few videos you are fairly sure? Autism is MUCH MUCH MUCH more then weird body language. You are far from the only one with this seeming skill that I lack to spot autism based on a few videos. It could be autism, it could be ADHD, and it could be a ten year old way past his bedtime or just overwhelmed by the situation he has been put into.


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27 Jan 2017, 1:07 pm

While I think that cuts in services and funding will be bad for most people on the spectrum, I think a few really high functioning people will be better off without such assistance. They will rise to the challenge of getting by without assistance. It is human nature to take the easy path, and not put in the work to fully develop their skills.

I think this is why foreigners with graduate degrees are often smarter than native born Americans with bachelor's degrees. The extra years of study have given them refined cognitive skills.They often had to work as poorly paid teaching assistants. But they gained a sound understanding of the fundamentals of their field in the process. They needed to get those degrees to get jobs. But native born Americans got jobs that paid just as much without getting those degrees.



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27 Jan 2017, 10:11 pm

BTDT wrote:
While I think that cuts in services and funding will be bad for most people on the spectrum, I think a few really high functioning people will be better off without such assistance. They will rise to the challenge of getting by without assistance. It is human nature to take the easy path, and not put in the work to fully develop their skills.

I think this is why foreigners with graduate degrees are often smarter than native born Americans with bachelor's degrees. The extra years of study have given them refined cognitive skills.They often had to work as poorly paid teaching assistants. But they gained a sound understanding of the fundamentals of their field in the process. They needed to get those degrees to get jobs. But native born Americans got jobs that paid just as much without getting those degrees.


Ouch! I think you are generalising a bit here, very polarised. Degrees do not prove anything. Degrees and BAs are part of moneymaking industry. Twenty or thirty years ago, there were no demands for BAs int he education field for teachers. Teachers are born not made.


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28 Jan 2017, 8:12 pm

I hate to see social supports go away, for anyone.

Of course, my anachronistic heart dreams of a world in which we, as human beings, would provide each other with those supports, not because we've made a career out of doing so but simply because it is what needs to be done. Rainbow unicorns, oh my.

My one problem with the article in the OP is that literally EVERYONE I have heard or read make openly pro-eugenics statements, particularly against differentially abled folks, has been a card-carrying liberal.


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29 Jan 2017, 11:20 am

In the UK to do a trump is to fart. Just saying.



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29 Jan 2017, 1:04 pm

BuyerBeware wrote:

My one problem with the article in the OP is that literally EVERYONE I have heard or read make openly pro-eugenics statements, particularly against differentially abled folks, has been a card-carrying liberal.


Oversimplification, but you are on to something. Aniti vaxx movement is centered in Marin County, California, Autism Speaks was founded and headquartered in New York City, The Judge Rotenberg Center is located in Massachusetts and houses mostly poor severely autistic kids from New York City.

With the right you pretty much know what you are going to get, cuts in funding or elimination of programs. With the left Autism programs are funded, insurance for them has been mandated in most states. The problem is what the programs are attempting. ABA for 25 to 40 hours a week has parallels with Communist re-education camps.

Eugenics and the Dark Secret of the American Left

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In his New
York Times bestseller Liberal
Fascism, Jonah Goldberg shows that before Hitler gave eugenics a bad
name, almost all the leading progressive intellectuals of the early 20th century
interpreted Darwin’s theory as a writ to “interfere” with human natural
selection. Indeed, when the National Socialist sterilized over 50,000 “unfit”
Germans, a former advisor to Teddy Roosevelt exclaimed, “The Germans are beating
us at our own game.”


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30 Jan 2017, 9:32 am

Bring it. I'm ready to take on anything he can dish out.



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30 Jan 2017, 5:20 pm

I read the link in the first post, I had trouble understanding it, can someone please explain to me? All I got was he don't like disabled people.



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31 Jan 2017, 9:47 pm

Sounds more like Trump will waste money on a wild goose chase.



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31 Jan 2017, 10:24 pm

BuyerBeware wrote:
My one problem with the article in the OP is that literally EVERYONE I have heard or read make openly pro-eugenics statements, particularly against differentially abled folks, has been a card-carrying liberal.


Really? Could you please provide examples.

See, I have my liberal card right here and it says nothing about it. Maybe it is in the fine print on my liberal contract.

Or maybe you can keep the conspiricay theories out of a discussion about real life.



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01 Feb 2017, 4:47 pm

BuyerBeware wrote:
I hate to see social supports go away, for anyone.

Of course, my anachronistic heart dreams of a world in which we, as human beings, would provide each other with those supports, not because we've made a career out of doing so but simply because it is what needs to be done. Rainbow unicorns, oh my.

My one problem with the article in the OP is that literally EVERYONE I have heard or read make openly pro-eugenics statements, particularly against differentially abled folks, has been a card-carrying liberal.


I would disagree that everyone favors Eugenics. I could see a point if you define abortion of fetuses with certain condition as eugenics. I personally would not consider that eugenics.



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02 Feb 2017, 2:16 am

International Society for Autism Research (INSAR) thinks immigration restrictions will be bad for autistics


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