Study indicates anorexia in women and autistic traits link

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03 Feb 2017, 3:31 am

Women with anorexia show lasting autistic traits, research reveals

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Women with anorexia display clear autistic traits, even once the eating disorder is under control and they have achieved a normal weight, according to research from Sahlgrenska Academy. The similarities between anorexia and autism in women are also seen in a part of the brain which process social skills.

"A traditional eating disorder is usually linked to fixation with food and weight, but there are also a large number of other thoughts and behavior in individuals with anorexia nervosa that have previously been considered typical for autism," says Louise Karjalainen, PhD and psychologist at the Gillberg Neuropsychiatry Centre in Gothenburg.

It has long been known that individuals with autism have disturbed eating behavior. However, it has been unclear whether typical autistic behavior surrounding food also exists in those with anorexia nervosa.


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03 Feb 2017, 4:23 am

I could have told them that lol. My anorexia presents itself like any other special interest, and has accompanying sensory issues as the article describes. Rigid thinking also plays a big part, my own brand of 'logic' on food matters is stronger than the physical need to consume. That's pretty powerful.

An interesting read, though it states that these findings are new; I am sure I have read scientific material on this before, beyond my own speculation.

I wonder if they would find the same correlation in males with anorexia.



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05 Feb 2017, 2:15 am

I have read of this link time and again, like with ADHD, but no matter how often this gets quoted, I remain non-anorexic and non-ADHD.

Guess it isn't absolute.



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24 Feb 2017, 5:01 pm

Well, you'd never think I was anorexic if you saw me. And today someone told me that I'm more active than I think. I think the only way I'd lose weight is to actually become anorexic, but obviously I don't want to starve myself until I die and I like food too much, anyway.



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01 Mar 2017, 7:01 am

I had a food obsession that lasted for more or less two years which caused me to lose quite a bit of weight, become dangerously skinny and lose my period. And then the obsession faded away by itself and I slowly gained weight. Not sure if this is counted as anorexia. Now I'm around 54-55 kg and I guess it's quite a healthy as I'm 170 cm, but I have stretch marks and cellulite all over my body thanks to it.



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01 Mar 2017, 5:11 pm

Seeing a therapist for help with anorexia is how it got picked up that I might be on the spectrum. She referred me onto a specialist for an assessment and I got diagnosed as a result. I never would have know otherwise (though it explains a lot of things that have plagued me my entire life).



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30 Mar 2017, 12:54 am

i've been AN-r for years, currently in remission.
still having eating problems even with recovery. possibly relapsing, too soon to say.

the connection it can have with AS is obvious to me.

but like the article says, eating problems are common in autistic people in general. most aren't anorectic or anything, but with sensory issues, routine structures, fixations, aversion to change, etc. this can contribute a lot in an actual ED.

i think also, eating disorders are common in people with other mental illness and victims of abuse. autism isn't a mental illness of course, but autistic people are susceptible to both mental illness and abuse.



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30 Mar 2017, 12:57 am

racheypie666 wrote:
I wonder if they would find the same correlation in males with anorexia.


i bet that research on male anorexia has come about as far as research on female autism. maybe even less so.

but i agree. i would love to see a study on male AS-AN correlation, or just an integrated study.



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19 Jan 2018, 11:33 am

From what I've heard, anorexia can be described as a physical manifestation of anxiety. And let's face it, with today's political climate, it sucks to be an aspie because a lot of us are catastrophic thinkers with obsessive personalities. That doesn't make us less than NT's, but it's still hard to put up with.



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19 Jan 2018, 11:49 am

komamanga wrote:
I had a food obsession that lasted for more or less two years which caused me to lose quite a bit of weight, become dangerously skinny and lose my period. And then the obsession faded away by itself and I slowly gained weight. Not sure if this is counted as anorexia. Now I'm around 54-55 kg and I guess it's quite a healthy as I'm 170 cm, but I have stretch marks and cellulite all over my body thanks to it.


I hope you don't feel singled out. I'm so happy you're at a healthier weight and hopefully you're feeling better. I just want you and other people reading this to know that stretch marks and cellulite are 1000% normal. Even thin people and professional athletes have them both. There's nothing wrong with them. Even though tabloids are total bullies about body image, it's only because those bullies are insecure about their own looks and are delusional enough to think that dragging others will make them feel better about themselves. Even women remembered as "the most beautiful in the world" look pretty similar to us. It's a million times better to gain some weight than to be so underweight that your health is being seriously compromised. :heart:



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19 Jan 2018, 12:06 pm

I was anorexic. Sometimes I want to go back to it when I do not have control over anything else in my life. I also obsess about exercise at times.


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19 Jan 2018, 2:47 pm

Since obsession about something is a common AS trait then this should not be surprising.



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19 Jan 2018, 6:41 pm

This is why I don't diet anymore. When I was 19 I nearly starved myself to death obsessed trying to fit into designer size 0 clothes back in '09. I will not touch a scale and I will not ever get into the habit of counting calories.



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27 Feb 2019, 12:38 am

Autism-anorexia link 'must be acted on' - BBC

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The NHS must change the way it assesses eating disorders to take account of a link with autism, a research charity has said.
Autistica said findings suggested one in five women presenting to UK clinics with anorexia may also have autism and tailored therapy was vital.
One woman said her autism had made her "obsessed" with counting calories, even though she did not want to lose weight.
Health watchdog NICE said more research was required.

Autistica's director of science, Dr James Cusack, said is calling for new guidelines from the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE) to reflect this.

Currently, the guidelines do not contain any mention of autism.

"We also need more NHS services involved in research," Dr Cusack said, "both informing studies and carrying out trials in eating-disorder care settings."

His proposal has the backing of former Health Minister Norman Lamb.

The Lib Dem MP told the Victoria Derbyshire programme it was "vital" that practice caught up with research.
"We may well be applying inappropriate care to women with both conditions," he added.

NICE said in a statement that it recognised factors such as autism needed to be taken into account with regards to eating disorders, but there was currently "very little" evidence on whether the intervention of health professionals needed to be modified in such cases.

NHS England has been approached for comment.

Will Mandy, a leading autism researcher, from University College London, said part of the issue was that women and girls were much less likely than men to be recognised as having autism in the first place.

And he believes that the "high levels of stress and anxiety" caused by the condition going undiagnosed in childhood and adolescence can contribute to people experiencing severe mental health conditions, such as eating disorders.
Recognition among health professionals of the autism-anxiety link was key, he said.

"If you don't know somebody is autistic, it becomes quite hard to help them and to adapt treatment to being autistic," Mr Mandy said.

A tailored approach can include simple changes, such as making communication easier and the environment friendlier.

Caroline Norton, from South London and Maudsley NHS Trust's Eating Disorder Service, said its autistic patients might have one-to-one sessions - to remove the noise of others in the same space - where they learned to make food with a dietician.

Healthcare professionals can also try to make patients more comfortable.

One of the service's former patients, Ms Norton said, would hardly communicate with the therapist face-to-face but would instead send a long response via email shortly after the session - so they learned from this.

"It's about meeting the individual at the level that they need," she added.


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27 Feb 2019, 7:19 am

It makes sense, especially in undiagnosed adolescents... that co morbid anxiety related conditions, caused by inhospitable environments would be present.
The need for control of something... anything at all really, to give some sense of predictability and routine. Pre independence the control areas available to young people are generally limited to basic survival needs like food and shelter.
This would be a good step forward, for the NHS to alter their eating disorder treatments to accommodate people with disabilities such as autism.



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27 Feb 2019, 1:49 pm

I remember seeing a bit of a documentary about anorexia that was showing these women in some treatment facility. They really did not seem autistic at all. So not sure there is necessarily a link...but people with autism can be more prone to anxiety I think which anorexia can be linked to anxiety.

I have aspergers and anxiety, but I've never had an eating disorder. I have found since I got PTSD it was harder to eat...but that's not the same thing as refusing to eat.


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