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05 Mar 2017, 6:41 pm

LjSpike wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
LjSpike wrote:
Good challenge.

Well in 6000 years there is 189,220,000,000 seconds. An acceleration of 10m/s/s would result in a final speed of:
1,892,200,000,000 m/s, nearly two trillion (two thousand billions)!

Using the formula for addition of triangular numbers, (n^2+n)/2 and multiplying the answer by 10, where n is the number of seconds it's been falling for:
1.79x10^22 meters it has approximately travelled. Writing that out in long format:
17,900,000,000,000,000,000,000 meters!


Though I see the whole flat earth principle as totally invalid, and a large number of its apparent new believers are just doing it for the humour I do believe.
Just as a list of points against flat earth:
1) Satellite photography, it shows a spherical earth
2) Numerous physics principles, gravity, magnetic fields, etc.
3) People travel around the earth from Asia to America, and America to Europe all the time without falling off the edge.
4) Here is a nice little proof you can do yourself. You can do this with boats travelling towards you if you time it correctly, or in Calais you can just look at Dover. Dover appears lower down than it is, from Calais, and boats as they come towards you rise above the "horizon". You can do some mathematical calculations with the heights of the cliffs of Dover and work out the curvature of the Earth (or just how much of Dover is hidden below the sea) and then prove the Earth is curved. A nice little discussion from the Flat Earth Society: https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/for ... ic=63369.0


Thanks.
Gosh! So what is that? From quick math in my head it looks like we are moving at six million times the speed of light by now. Einstein wouldnt like THAT! But we are dispensing with Newton, and gravity. So who needs Einstein? Lol!


Back to the whole flat earth point:Well, generally accepted physics does partially accept the earth moving up when your drop an object, but that object also falls. Gravity, is attractive, it always is, simple as. That means when you drop a ball, the ball is pulled to the earth, AND the earth is pulled to the ball. Flat Earth theory however is just flawed, less down to fancy things like the speed of light, but literally due to the fact, we travel in all directions around the earth, have objects in orbit, etc. etc. While the concept of the earth being able to move to simulate gravity if it were flat is a valid one, it relies on the idea of the earth being flat, which is flawed. An interesting application of such a principle however, would be in colony spaceships. They could accelerate towards their destination, and that could allow for simulated gravity.


Well...there is a whole industry out there on You Tube trying to debunk round earthism. Just go to U Tube. Or just tap Ban Dodger on the shoulder, and he will happily start a forty page thread of debate trying to persuade you that the globe making mafia is out to fool you into believing this round earth lie! Lol!

A couple of folks on WP were into all of this modern flat earthism (which is in part one more type of conspiracy theory). Have debated with them already.

According to modern flat earthers it doesnt prove anything to say that "folks sail around the world and dont fall off" because "you can walk around the block and not fall off the city block". The modern flat earthers conceive the earth as being shaped like a United Nations' Seal, which is also shaped like a round pizza. The crust that surrounds that pizza is the continent of Antarctica. The South Pole is not a point at the bottom of a globe, but is the entire circumference of the earth. So when you think you are sailing the world you are really just sailing in a big circle around the flat disc shaped earth.

So they get around a lot of problems with this model. But of course they create a lot of problems as well.



And these modern flat earthers differ from our ancient flat earth assuming ancestors in one crucial way- they claim that the sun stays on this side of the flat earth, and just hovers in a circle above us (the ancients assumed that the sun went underneath the flat earth when it sets- which actually agrees better with observation of how the sun seems to act in the sky).


But anyway one of the tenets of modern flat earthism is despensing with gravity by invoking this notion that the earth accelerates upward. And does so at the same rate that we think that stuff accelerates downward. So I decided that "sanity be damned". Lets all just focus on this upward acceleration idea, and just go with it.

Maybe the whole earth really IS just a big pizza pie. And maybe God threw the Pizza across the room at the acceleration of gravity at the moment of Creation. And maybe....some day this pie will hit Moe, or Curly, in the face. And that will be the End Times foretold in the Book of Revelations!