Muslims say; religious freedom for me, but not for thee.

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Muslims say; religious freedom for me, but not for thee.

The Golden Rule and other reciprocity sayings indicate that what we grant ourselves or some others should also be granted to everyone. This would include the right to critique religions and governments.

Islam and it’s Muslim adherents are quite vocal in denigrating other religions and political system, yet say that others who denigrate Islam and Sharia should be penalized in various ways, --- even unto death.

Where I come from, reciprocity is fair play and all players in a game play by the same rules. Islam and Muslims wants to win the God wars by having different restrictive rules for their interlocutors.

Should we respect and tolerate a religion that denies us the rights and play by the same rules that they enjoy?

If yes, please tell me why we should respect such a religion.

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DL

It's a good point, I would like to see how someone would argue against that.

Is this something all muslims say or is this an example of a blanket generalization based on the worst of muslims?

In the U.S we have christians actually trying to push religious legislation, I am more concerned about that than muslims in this country. Yet I still do not think all Christians want to impose their beliefs though enough do to be making political noise about it though.

We can't just pick and chose what religions religious freedom applies to, what do you suggest we keep freedom of religion but exclude muslims?

It's not a generalization when it's done on a national level, I agree that reciprocation is key and intolerant forms of religion should be opposed. Freedom of religion has its limits, it is not absolute and everything claimed under it's banner does not need be respected as this is not a country of religious law.

Not sure why you're singling out Islam here. All religions have zealots who persecute non-believers and peaceful people who support religious freedom. In practice, in Western countries most people of all religions support religious freedom, and Muslims are no exception.

Obviously if you support religious freedom then you have to oppose intolerant religions.

...you don't understand muslim culture at all.

I vaguely remember a study where the majority of the worlds muslims support Shariah law. I think the difference with Christian's there seems to be a big moderate section fighting against the more right wing sects. They both though seem to say the radicals are not members of their religion (no true Scotsman).

I haven't done enough research on Muslims to say anything directed at their religion in particular. But yes. Your original statement is true. If a religion is found to be intolerant of others (Or at least a great number of them), then they deserve no tolerance of them.

We do need to think about the grey zone. What of the innocents associated with said religion? You can't tell me there are none, because that would be impossible. Should they be treated with the same intolerance as their intolerant brethren? Or should we do something else. If so, what would we do? A legitimate question, not a criticism.