The "islamophobia" narrative & the Left's double standard
So you're intolerant. Should you be tolerated?
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The media etc's aim is to make people hate Muslims, as they are our 'enemy'. Though the policies of "rubbing the right's nose in diversity" and "rendering their argument's out of date" are a deliberate ploy, some of these 'leftists' actually support these policies and believe in them
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"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"
Thanks for the video, Boo.
This is what I have been thinking for a long time.
What I find particularly hideous is how Muslim freethinkers are betrayed by the political establishment, both left and right. There are lots of people on the left who term people like Ayaan Hirsi Ali "extremists", yet she has never called for the killing of anyone. Much like the "militant atheists" who are apparently "militant" because they loudly disagree with religious people.
I think this is a fairly simple question. You defend the person being threatened with murder, never mind religion. All religions die of old age anyway, the trouble is that they survive much longer than people.
And the term "Islamophobia" is absurd. Are we no longer allowed to criticise ideas? That is the end of Western civilisation right there.
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So you're intolerant. Should you be tolerated?
This is a big problem with the mainstream left.
They erroneously believe that tolerance is a virtue. It isn't. Why be tolerant of a hateful ideology?
In many Muslim countries I would be executed, jailed, or murdered with impunity just for being gay. Why should I be tolerant of them or their backwards beliefs?
Islam is disgusting.
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They erroneously believe that tolerance is a virtue. It isn't. Why be tolerant of a hateful ideology?
In many Muslim countries I would be executed, jailed, or murdered with impunity just for being gay. Why should I be tolerant of them or their backwards beliefs?
Islam is disgusting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance <- more info
They erroneously believe that tolerance is a virtue. It isn't. Why be tolerant of a hateful ideology?
In many Muslim countries I would be executed, jailed, or murdered with impunity just for being gay. Why should I be tolerant of them or their backwards beliefs?
Islam is disgusting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance <- more info
Would you agree that the mainstream left is over tolerant. I say that as a Liberal myself.
They erroneously believe that tolerance is a virtue. It isn't. Why be tolerant of a hateful ideology?
In many Muslim countries I would be executed, jailed, or murdered with impunity just for being gay. Why should I be tolerant of them or their backwards beliefs?
Islam is disgusting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance <- more info
Would you agree that the mainstream left is over tolerant. I say that as a Liberal myself.
I said it wasn't in my post you're quoting...
So you're intolerant. Should you be tolerated?
His idea of 'intolerance' is views he disagrees with. You realise that tolerating something, isn't meant to be something pleasant? Hence why you need 'tolerance' to see past it? Maybe you should look up the word tolerance.
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"No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?"
So you're intolerant. Should you be tolerated?
His idea of 'intolerance' is views he disagrees with. You realise that tolerating something, isn't meant to be something pleasant? Hence why you need 'tolerance' to see past it? Maybe you should look up the word tolerance.
additionally i think you're conflating being accepting [of someone else's views and culture] with being tolerant. the first implies that you're ok with _, the latter doesn't.
They erroneously believe that tolerance is a virtue. It isn't. Why be tolerant of a hateful ideology?
In many Muslim countries I would be executed, jailed, or murdered with impunity just for being gay. Why should I be tolerant of them or their backwards beliefs?
Islam is disgusting.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance <- more info
Would you agree that the mainstream left is over tolerant. I say that as a Liberal myself.
I said it wasn't in my post you're quoting...
Sorry
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They erroneously believe that tolerance is a virtue. It isn't. Why be tolerant of a hateful ideology?
In many Muslim countries I would be executed, jailed, or murdered with impunity just for being gay. Why should I be tolerant of them or their backwards beliefs?
Islam is disgusting.
Christianity is disgusting too, by the same logic.
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They erroneously believe that tolerance is a virtue. It isn't. Why be tolerant of a hateful ideology?
In many Muslim countries I would be executed, jailed, or murdered with impunity just for being gay. Why should I be tolerant of them or their backwards beliefs?
Islam is disgusting.
Christianity is disgusting too, by the same logic.
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They erroneously believe that tolerance is a virtue. It isn't. Why be tolerant of a hateful ideology?
In many Muslim countries I would be executed, jailed, or murdered with impunity just for being gay. Why should I be tolerant of them or their backwards beliefs?
Islam is disgusting.
Christianity is disgusting too, by the same logic.
Jesus probably didn't do that, but Christians burned Cathars, labeled blacks as having no souls, burned peoples accused of witchcraft, justified wars against non-believers and various other vile things. Of course not all Christians did that, and many were even opposed to such acts, but the same could be said of Muslims. If you don't know about the bad things made in the name of nearly all religions through history, it would be about time you learn about history.
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Down with speculators!! !
They erroneously believe that tolerance is a virtue. It isn't. Why be tolerant of a hateful ideology?
In many Muslim countries I would be executed, jailed, or murdered with impunity just for being gay. Why should I be tolerant of them or their backwards beliefs?
Islam is disgusting.
Christianity is disgusting too, by the same logic.
Jesus probably didn't do that, but Christians burned Cathars, labeled blacks as having no souls, burned peoples accused of witchcraft, justified wars against non-believers and various other vile things. Of course not all Christians did that, and many were even opposed to such acts, but the same could be said of Muslims. If you don't know about the bad things made in the name of nearly all religions through history, it would be about time you learn about history.
And Jesus also set up an example in the way he lived. For Christians to follow, Jesus is what the perfect Christian would look like. And Jesus didn't throw gays of buildings so a perfect Christian also wouldn't throw gays of buildings. Not saying that Christians can't do bad stuff, believe me they can.