Why is it considered uncultured to be proudly American?

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Yeah, it will only bring tons more corruption into our justice system and jails. I will say our Justice system really is screwed up, I mean for one we have the highest amount of people incarcerated for long periods of time for non-violent offenses. People have gotten longer prison sentences for pot than child molestation...talk about some screwed up priorities.

Yeah I am sure privatization doesn't encourage making criminals out of people and ruining lives just for profit for those running said prisons....NOT.

Exactly but with private prisons isn't that sort of the point? They hope the drug addict does f**k up and get caught again and put back in jail....with private prisons its not about rehabilitation its about making money off people in jail. Of course it should be treated as a health issue...and from my understanding places that use harm reduction and rehabilitation approach rather than criminalizing addicts have seen some success in addiction rates going down. Treating addicts like criminals only deters them from getting help.

How the f**k can you be proud of America when .... (here we go)

-America doesn't provide free health care
-America doesn't provide free immigration
-America doesn't provide free school
-America doesn't take care of minorities
-America doesn't take care of its infrastructure
-America doesn't take care of its teachers
-America doesn't take care of its veterans
-America doesn't take care of its needy
...

^well clearly there can be no dialogue with that mentality....I am done here, said what I feel like in this thread already.

^^^This

Even certain European nations are feeling the pending bankruptcy of their socialized medicine.


Neither does Mexico, among other nations.


Are you referring to college? If so, neither does the United Kingdom (remember the "student riots"?)


As caucasian people are frequently described as the new American minority, I would say that the United States treats them about theh same as it treats everyone else.


Have you seen the infrastructure of other nations?


American teachers are almost completely unionized. Their future pensions are quite safe, as are those of firefighters, EMTs, law-enforcement officers, politicians and their government workers.


To a certain degree, American veterans have benefits that accumulate over their military careers. If they enlist for the shortest of duties, they won't receive many benefits. If they hang around longer, they get a LOT of benefits.


So, what are those federal programs like OSHA, ADA, Section 8 and public housing, SNAP food benefits, cash benefits, Medicaid and Medicare, and all the private-sector charities who help the needy?

Unlike socialized nations, America balances it needs and wants. But, hey. If you live in another nation, enjoy! I am certain it is swell compared to the United States. If not, don't bash us. It isn't our fault.

Caucasians will never be the minority in America as a whole.

But....really...it doesn't matter.

I've met very few non-Caucasian, non-native Americans who do not subscribe to the American Dream (especially for their children). Immigrants tend to be hard on their children, and really push them to succeed.

Like any immigrant group (nor native group). there are "bad apples."

I'm the one that gets bashed.

I have been called "Hate not Love" like 10+ times on WP, because I defend America.

Many members think "love" is free money, and "hate" is taking that money away.

I didn't mean to offend you. I was speaking editorially. No other WP users should call others names. I was trying to describe how there are consquences for every governmental action. Most are good consequences, others aren't so good.

Nothing wrong with being proud of where you come from as long as you don't think you're better than others.
There are patriotic liberals.Being a patriot isn't being quiet when they think their country is is error.If people hadn't done that years ago it would still be legal to own slaves,Jim Crow would still exist.
I think it's patriotic to stick up for Vets and make sure they get good health care.Many in my family served.I have total respect for those that serve.They were willing to die,they should a least get an appointment at the VA in a timely manner and not have to wait six months to see a physician.
As for infrastructure, it does suck in places.How is it unpatriotic to tell the truth?Who wants to drive over a crappy bridge that needs repair.Drink city water full of lead?

I don't find anything wrong with being proud to be American, but:

Do you realize how unhealthy cheeseburgers, BBQ, and apple pie is? Those in "countries where people actually defecate in the streets" wonder how some could bear to eat such sugary and/or greasy foods more than once a month. It's all a matter of perspective.

Apple pie isn't really unhealthy. Maybe too many carbs.

Yes you defend america by pretending anyone who criticizes anything about this country it is a totally anti-american free loader.....

Maybe people call you hate not love because of your judgmental attitude and complete disregard for struggles of disabled and impoverished americans...or at least apparent lack of it. Maybe you say some stuff just to get a rise out of people and you aren't really so harsh as you come off here...but yeah people don't say 'hate not love' just to be mean its a response to your mean-spiritedness you express here.

If I posted a lot of mean spirited, insensitive things I would expect people to start referring to me as sourleaf instead of sweetleaf.

I post the "conservative perspective".

It's not "mean-spirited".

What is cruel is what I see many here post. They post ideas of robbing people of their money. They post of ideas on how reduce people's freedoms. Then they spin it, so that somehow robbing and enslaving is moral and compassionate.

It's because you're looking at two different American cultures which have a different view of what American pride is. Those who like stuff from other cultures are just as American as you, they just come from Cosmopolitan America. They're view of America is that it's a melting pot of other cultures, and by celebrating other cultures they are celebrating America. For them, rustic America is just another culture in the American melting pot, and emphasizing rustic America over other cultures is offensive to their culture.

Why do cheeseburgers or BBQ have to be unhealthy? what if you eat some veggies with your cheeseburger and use real cheese instead of those gross 'American cheese' slices or what about a swiss cheese and mushroom burger? And I thought BBQ was essentially anything you cook on a fire or grill....you can pretty much BBQ anything.

I guess typically people think of bbq sauce and a gas or coal grill and tons of gross condiments, with unhealthy sides and such. But why not simply throw some meat and veggies on and eat that, lol I also like going camping and just cooking with the fire and natural things around the campsites like sticks to stick through sausages to roast or flat rocks to cook other things...its nice to have a pan or pot to boil water or contain anything with lots of moisture. But lol I don't want that silly yuppie set up with the miniature gas stove top and bringing practically the contents of a whole kitchen with them...those are probably the ones who litter to cause they just 'don't know any better', or 'but the animals will eat it right?' I sometimes wish those people would get eaten by the animals.