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19 May 2017, 4:32 pm

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Thisgate, thatgate, I'm getting sick of all these goddamn gates. :X

Will they name a scandal involving water "watergate"? :wink:

Or, would a scandal involving the gate industry be called gategate? :lol:

No scandal named "Aspiegate"?

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19 May 2017, 6:04 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Tollorin wrote:

mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:

Thisgate, thatgate, I'm getting sick of all these goddamn gates. :X

Will they name a scandal involving water "watergate"? :wink:

Or, would a scandal involving the gate industry be called gategate? :lol:

No scandal named "Aspiegate"?

Give it time.

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20 May 2017, 12:30 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

ASPartOfMe wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

Tollorin wrote:

mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:

Thisgate, thatgate, I'm getting sick of all these goddamn gates. :X

Will they name a scandal involving water "watergate"? :wink:

Or, would a scandal involving the gate industry be called gategate? :lol:

No scandal named "Aspiegate"?

Give it time.

Differently-but-equally-abled-person-with-an-autistic-spectrum-disorder-gate. :lol:

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20 May 2017, 3:05 pm

Is anyone even talking about this so called Obamagate idiocy anymore? I tend to think even most Trumpanzees have come to realize this was nothing more than just Trump's baseless paranoia, or an ill-thought out, vindictive tit-for-tat on his part.

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21 May 2017, 11:53 am

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No scandal named "Aspiegate"?

hacking = weaponized autism

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21 May 2017, 11:54 am

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Assuming that it's dialectic, both sides would be compromised.

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21 May 2017, 12:58 pm

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Assuming that it's dialectic, both sides would be compromised.

How so?

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21 May 2017, 1:34 pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangulation_(psychology)

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21 May 2017, 2:53 pm

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangulation_(psychology)

If you're inferring that the Russia investigation holds as much water as Trump's claims that Obama had spied on him, it should be remembered that the FBI and even some leading Republicans agree with the Democrats that there is fire in that smoke. That, and Trump's badly hidden relationship with Russian oligarchs, his and his top aides' meetings with top Russian spy masters, as well as the resignations of Putin's American fixer-turned-Trump-advisor, Paul Mannifort, and the out-and-out firing of Flynn for his secret Russian connections, makes this obvious, whereas Trump based his claims solely on what he learned from Breitbart - as if that's a legitimate source.

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21 May 2017, 9:16 pm

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And it is kind of curious how Obama fled the country shortly after the inauguration, and is now somewhere in the South Pacific... :mrgreen:

I had no idea Washington D.C. was in the South Pacific, here all these years I thought it was between Maryland and Virginia. Damn all that schooling I took with it's damn lies!

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22 May 2017, 3:44 am

All that and still not an iota of empirical evidence has surfaced. It seems like one is just fueled by a lot more hysteria than the other. And somehow mass hysteria equals more credibility.

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22 May 2017, 8:18 am

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If you're inferring that the Russia investigation holds as much water as Trump's claims that Obama had spied on him...

So, you have a Russia claim vs. a Russia claim, and decided to blame someone other than Russia.

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22 May 2017, 2:17 pm

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If you're inferring that the Russia investigation holds as much water as Trump's claims that Obama had spied on him...

So, you have a Russia claim vs. a Russia claim, and decided to blame someone other than Russia.

What Russia claim vs a Russia claim? I only know of one Russia scandal that has come to encompass several people.

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22 May 2017, 5:09 pm

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All that and still not an iota of empirical evidence has surfaced. It seems like one is just fueled by a lot more hysteria than the other. And somehow mass hysteria equals more credibility.

How often is the public kept abreast of ongoing investigations? The last thing they need is to help the cover-up effort.

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22 May 2017, 5:33 pm

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EzraS wrote:

All that and still not an iota of empirical evidence has surfaced. It seems like one is just fueled by a lot more hysteria than the other. And somehow mass hysteria equals more credibility.

How often is the public kept abreast of ongoing investigations? The last thing they need is to help the cover-up effort.

Watergate is a great example of this: there was no smoking gun tying Nixon to the break-in, a lot of threads that kept leading back to him, but no hard evidence. As the investigation went on more and more threads began to appear and Nixon eventually resigned before impeachment was actually voted upon because he knew it would inevitably lead to him. The Watergate investigation lasted nearly two years by that point-- just because an investigation, especially one at the highest levels of government, doesn't produce hard evidence to the public immediately doesn't mean it's not there.

Michael Flynn's lawyer announced today he would plead the 5th at the senate investigation hearing, that means he's refusing to incriminate himself as allowed by law, but it also means there's incriminating evidence there, at least on his end. It could be that Flynn was acting on his own and that's as far as it goes, but as Watergate showed, it could also be the first thread of many.

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22 May 2017, 10:21 pm

funeralxempire wrote:

EzraS wrote:

All that and still not an iota of empirical evidence has surfaced. It seems like one is just fueled by a lot more hysteria than the other. And somehow mass hysteria equals more credibility.

How often is the public kept abreast of ongoing investigations? The last thing they need is to help the cover-up effort.

I don't know what you're talking about. There's continuous live streams of all of it.

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