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28 Apr 2017, 3:03 am

leejosepho wrote:
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You still havent answered my question: why do you equate "pluralism" with "suppressing religion"?

I do not.



So what is your problem with GWB's speech then?

How does GWB's speech "breach the divide between church and state"?



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28 Apr 2017, 8:15 am

naturalplastic wrote:
...what is your problem with GWB's speech...?

I do not have one.

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How does GWB's speech "breach the divide between church and state"?

No religious commentary would have been needed to say perpetrators of terror would be pursued and prosecuted.


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28 Apr 2017, 9:59 am

leejosepho wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
...what is your problem with GWB's speech...?

I do not have one.

naturalplastic wrote:
How does GWB's speech "breach the divide between church and state"?

No religious commentary would have been needed to say perpetrators of terror would be pursued and prosecuted.


:lol:

In the first sentence you deny having a problem with his speech.
In the next sentence you state a problem that you have with his speech!
:lol:

But he didnt make any "religious commentary" in his speech.



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28 Apr 2017, 10:05 am

naturalplastic wrote:
leejosepho wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
...what is your problem with GWB's speech...?

I do not have one.
naturalplastic wrote:
How does GWB's speech "breach the divide between church and state"?

No religious commentary would have been needed to say perpetrators of terror would be pursued and prosecuted.

In the next sentence you state a problem that you have with his speech!

I have no problem with his speech, I was simply making reference to it in relation to the topic of this thread.

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But he didn't make any "religious commentary" in his speech.

He certainly did, and you have already talked about that also. He talked about Islam and about good Muslims and bad Muslims as if he even had any expertise on the matter and/or any authority to even do so.


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28 Apr 2017, 10:10 am

Christianity believes in spirits, which are called powers and principalities, said to have authority over countries, like the patron deity or guardian angel. So, it is possible to worship a god of state, both figuratively and literally. Besides those people who make an idol of politics, according to the Christian worldview, it is not possible to divide faith and state, as the highest echelons are not of flesh and blood.



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28 Apr 2017, 7:10 pm

leejosepho wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
leejosepho wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
...what is your problem with GWB's speech...?

I do not have one.
naturalplastic wrote:
How does GWB's speech "breach the divide between church and state"?

No religious commentary would have been needed to say perpetrators of terror would be pursued and prosecuted.

In the next sentence you state a problem that you have with his speech!

I have no problem with his speech, I was simply making reference to it in relation to the topic of this thread.

naturalplastic wrote:
But he didn't make any "religious commentary" in his speech.

He certainly did, and you have already talked about that also. He talked about Islam and about good Muslims and bad Muslims as if he even had any expertise on the matter and/or any authority to even do so.


Commenting on religion is not breaching church and state. Making laws about religion is. He was not making a law.


Are you saying you approve of GWB commenting on religion? Or do you disapprove? If you approve then it makes sense for you to say that you "have no problem with his speech".



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28 Apr 2017, 7:49 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
Are you saying you approve of GWB commenting on religion? Or do you disapprove?

Neither, just making reference to it in relation to the topic of this thread.


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