How to Talk to Conservatives About Global Warming

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Looks like Europe is about to steadily increase immigration for the next 20 years according to the EU.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/won ... f74393ccc1

People on the extreme edges of the left and right, both basically say that the land has a limited carrying capacity, and either chooses to ration the resources, according to his own, social values.

You might just as well be asking how get that conservative to surrender.

According to conservatives, should most people have access to useful resources and the means of production, yes or no.

One could also say that most climate change promoters are paid government shills.

In other words, the supporters have a clear motive. To continue getting government grants. That argument goes both ways.

The leftists have an industry in special drawing rights, or carbon credits, which can be bought and sold for cash. It becomes ethical to pollute, so long as that is measurable and taxed. (Taxing a nationalized business.)

In general, most "protected resources" would be sold-off to foreign, money interests. It's being reserved, from public use, but not in the sense of a conservatorship.

Did you even watch the damn video?

When the birth rate goes down, the population doesn't immediately fall. The population growth slows. Eventually the population goes down later.

Overpopulation is a myth. The alt-right loves this myth because they can use it to shame innocent African women who are having a lot of kids. We all know that the alt-right hates African women more than anyone else.

Speaking of overpopulation, the Dervaes family reportedly grew enough food to support their needs and sell, from 1/6 of a semi-arid acre, and a cistern, off the freeway, in California. What is their burden on nature. I have found that people create oases and might be considered a keystone specie, along the lines of a beaver.

You may have noticed that our fiat currency is hypothecated, into existence. Yet, there are never enough subsidized jobs and credit.

Under communism, it was called the industrial or labor army. Some actuary has planned for a certain number of unemployed people, to be conscripted into menial labor, while we're saying that too many humans exist, just because no makework has been assigned to them.

The problem is with credit, and that it is overextended. Because, how are so many improvident people able to support themselves, so fatly, being a drain, and not improving upon the carrying capacity of the land.

Yeah ... well ... guess who controls the government.

Corporations do.

We can control the government through voting. Corporations control the government through lobbying. Lobbying is like paying for bonus votes. That's why lobbying needs to end.

The government has no motives of its own. Democratic governments are just puppets with strings that can be pulled.

That's where you're wrong. The government's motive is to assume as much power as it can. The more power the government assumes, means less power/freedom for us.

You have severe false consciousness.

If the government just wants more power, why do they give bailouts to big corporations?

Corporate power is more dangerous than government power. We can control the government to a certain extent by voting. Corporations, on the other hand, are totalitarian institutions.

Most anti-government rhetoric comes from corporate shills.

Do you seriously think that climate change related grants given to activists are big enough to simultaneously be active against climate change, bribe the majority of scientists, and still have enough left over to make it worth a conspiracy? How is that supposed to be considered as possible as oil companies using their absurd amounts of money to bribe whoever they can to save their multi billion dollar industry?

I'm not saying it's true at all. I'm saying that without actual numbers, the argument can be made either way. If a scientist doesn't conform to the general consensus he's accused of being paid off by the oil companies without any evidence. It's an invalid argument.

I saw videos of environmentalists, under the color of authority, telling some hermit to completely raze the ground of all signs of his homestead. They believe in active population control and call it altruism.