Our new president - President Emmanuel Macron!

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07 May 2017, 1:38 pm

Another glorious day! President Macron vanquishes Marine Le Pen with (according to current approximations) a little over 65% of the vote!

First the Dutch, and now the French. Countries are waking up and rejecting small-minded isolationism in favour of liberal, centrist, internationalism. All of this despite a last-minute attempt by Russians to discredit Macron by hacking his emails.

Use this thread to discuss and celebrate our new President's triumph over evil!

EN MARCHE!



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07 May 2017, 2:51 pm

I should had done a thread like this for our president (even tho I don't like him), just for the sake to keep the trend.



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07 May 2017, 3:07 pm

Your Prime Minister seems quite a decent politician - any chance of the Future Movement winning the Presidency in the foreseeable future?



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07 May 2017, 3:10 pm

So sad that the EuroCucks had to win. I'm sure Reichschancellor Merkel is happy.

I still await restoration of the monarchy. Vive Le Roi Henri VII d'Orleans.


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07 May 2017, 3:30 pm

I think, regardless of the politics involved, the OP is wrong. Geert Wilders didn't win, but he was not expected to. But he boosted his party's seats from 15 to 20. Le Pen outperformed the establishment parties in France. If the OP was true, Wilders' party would have lost ground, and Le Pen wouldn't have even made it to the runoff.



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07 May 2017, 3:44 pm

hooray global banking interests

hooray neoliberalism

hooray ISIS

Macron is your president now?

You say you triumphed over fear but the only fear was from the elite who felt their grip on control was slipping, what will Macron do for France? He is good because he saved it from the woman that wanted to put France first apparently, just like Hillary was good because she wasn't Trump never mind their corruption.



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07 May 2017, 4:18 pm

Jacoby wrote:
hooray global banking interests

hooray neoliberalism


This but unironically.

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hooray ISIS

Macron has said his top policy goal is "to kill ISIS". They'll be terrified now that a major Western power has elected someone who will stand up to them.
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Macron is your president now?

And yours.

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You say you triumphed over fear but the only fear was from the elite who felt their grip on control was slipping,

Sure thing. That's why the new political party founded by the outsider beat the dynastic politician who follows her father in abject failure.

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what will Macron do for France?

Keep it in the EU, keep the economic whirring, keep the borders open, keep it in the Single Market, not demonise Muslims, and not ally with Trump and Putin.

He wants to cut taxes and spending, but also increase welfare spending and implement a large stimulus spending package on infrastructure.

He'll also copy Angela Merkel's best ever policy and ensure that France takes its fair share of refugees at long last.

He is going to spend more money on police and security, as well as hitting 2% for defence.
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He is good because he saved it from the woman that wanted to put France first apparently,


You are obviously misinformed. Macron wants what is best for France. His opponent was a fascist, Marine Le Pen, who proposed policies which sit at odds with France's values of liberty, equality, and unity. She was also economically incompetent. If she was really going to put France first, she should have voted for Macron.

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just like Hillary was good because she wasn't Trump

Admittedly Hillary's communication didn't always emphasise her many positive qualities, but she was arguably even better than Macron. For example, she didn't share his fear of encryption. No doubt that Macron has proven the more skilled politician though.
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never mind their corruption.

Actually I do mind Trump and Le Pen's corruption and nepotism. I'm glad France have elected the uncorrupted candidate, and even Hillary managed to win the popular vote, which shows that most Americans also object to corruption.



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07 May 2017, 4:27 pm

Borowitz Report (satire): French Annoyingly Retain Right to Claim Intellectual Superiority Over Americans

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Pierre Grimange, a Parisian café-goer, sipped on a glass of Bordeaux and toasted his nation “for not being so dumb as the United States after all.”



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07 May 2017, 6:20 pm

BaronHarkonnen85 wrote:
So sad that the EuroCucks had to win. I'm sure Reichschancellor Merkel is happy.

I still await restoration of the monarchy. Vive Le Roi Henri VII d'Orleans.


How is Merkel a Nazi? Just because she's German?


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07 May 2017, 6:21 pm

Gives me reason to drink tonight in celebration! :D
Hell, I would drink, anyway. :lol:


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07 May 2017, 6:36 pm

Of note: socialist candidate Jean-Luc Melenchon, an alleged "antifascist", refused to endorse Macron in his fight against fascism. Quite a few of his supporters also refused to vote for Macron, spoiling their ballot papers instead.

The result? Le Pen came third in a two-horse race, behind "none of the above".

France would rather have no president than Le Pen.



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07 May 2017, 7:08 pm

You 'unironically' cheer global banking interests and neoliberalism? Obviously you come from a privileged background to not feel the crushing effect globalism has had on so many communities. It is personal to some of us, we don't all live in global finance centers that have gotten richer & richer & richer. What is fascism? Believing in borders? Is it just standing up for your national interests? It is such nonsense, when you cry wolf so many times then some people are going to begin to wonder why the wolf was bad at all. Macron is doomed to failure, his election will just delaying the inevitable and will just make it that more painful in the future.

Macron is going to kill ISIS? Ha, he's going to roll out the read carpet just like his boss Merkel did. ISIS after it is defeated militarily in Syria and Iraq has a future because of Islamism in Europe.



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07 May 2017, 7:33 pm

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All of this despite a last-minute attempt by Russians to discredit Macron by hacking his emails.


Do people actually believe this silly lie? Do those who keep repeating it actually think that if they repeat it often enough it will become true?

Where is the evidence (as opposed to gossip and rumour) that this accusation is true? I ask because I have yet to see it.



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07 May 2017, 7:50 pm

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He wants to cut taxes and spending, but also increase welfare spending and implement a large stimulus spending package on infrastructure.


Wow, this new President of yours is completely innumerate. Tell me Mr. Walrus, how can one actually go against the laws of basic arithmetic and increase spending whilst at the same time cutting taxes? Where will the money for an "increase in welfare spending" come from if he decides to reduce the overall amount of revenue the government will take in? Will he just print more money?

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He'll also copy Angela Merkel's best ever policy and ensure that France takes its fair share of refugees at long last.


Oh... my... best ever policy?!?! Are you actually serious?! 8O

This result is truly a disaster for France, and for Europe as a whole. Mr. Walrus, where I live we also have an ex-merchant banker in charge (he's the Prime Minister) and he is utterly clueless when it comes to recognising many of the more basic facts about the nature of reality. He lives in a palatial world of his own, surrounded by sycophants, and he actually believes in open borders, markets, and 'trickle-down' economic rationalism. He is a deluded fool, for such ideas have shown to be demonstrably wrong time and time again. Open borders, multiculturalism, free trade and all of that nonsense only ever benefits the rich, the aristocracy, the privately-educated toffy-snots. The working class will once again be screwed in France (all that cheap African labour).



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07 May 2017, 8:00 pm

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Of note: socialist candidate Jean-Luc Melenchon, an alleged "antifascist", refused to endorse Macron in his fight against fascism. Quite a few of his supporters also refused to vote for Macron, spoiling their ballot papers instead.

The result? Le Pen came third in a two-horse race, behind "none of the above".

France would rather have no president than Le Pen.


Maybe he refused to support Macron because, a) this wasn't actually a fight against Fascism, and b) being a Socialist he simply couldn't endorse a former banker for the top job. Some people actually have principles, you know, and refuse to compromise them for any reason(s). Yes, I realise that this fact is difficult for those on the extreme, ultra-radical left (and right) to understand, but many of us don't base our decisions upon whatever may happen to be most advantageous for ourselves. We are not all selfish, Ayn Rand-type utilitarians and pragmatists.



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07 May 2017, 8:04 pm

On one hand I'm relieved that France dodged having a more legitimately 'Fascist' party in power than we've come anywhere close to, regardless of whose in office over here.

I just hope that something gets noticed and resolved - ie. neoliberalism is indeed crushing the life out of the middle class across the west right now and something needs to be compensated in the middle. Without that they don't have buying power, what they do earn they'll save (out of sheer necessity) - if they aren't living paycheck to paycheck. That's a great recipe for folding up an economy, mass unemployment, riots in the streets, etc. etc..

A guy much brighter than myself on these topics has been making this point quite well and often lately:


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