Trump gives classified info to russians
I know everyone of his rivals is disfigured, dead, or has fled Russia. That's all I need to know about his character and thus him.
Really? What are their names? What's the evidence bearing case history on them?
I'm not url linking all these, you can copy and paste if you want to read the evidence.
ALEKSEI NAVALNY, current leader of the main opposition, in jail:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/784 ... dev-Russia
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/wor ... /99679422/
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/08/worl ... .html?_r=0
VLADIMIR KARA-MURZA former leader of opposition, poisoned twice, survived:
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/worl ... oison.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 37421.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39021225
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/russi ... as-n719061
BORIS NEMTSOV initial supporter of Putin turned critic of Putin, deceased:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... ce-killing
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39094596
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/26/europe/ru ... niversary/
ALAXANDER LITVINENKO spy that accused Putin of pedophilia, deceased:
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-19647226
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... used-puti/
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/22/worl ... itain.html
SERGEI MAGNITSKY lawyer who exposed state corruption, deceased:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... sing-putin
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/ ... der-114878
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-20626960
YURI SHCHEKOCHIKHIN journalist that exposed state corruption, deceased:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/f ... 324241.stm
SERGEI YUSHENKOV politician from opposition party and critic, deceased:
http://articles.latimes.com/2003/apr/18 ... sination18
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/ ... f26986e4cf
NATALIA ESTEMIROVA, human rights activist, critic, deceased:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/ ... estemirova
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... t-murdered
ANNA POLITKOVSKAYA journalist, critic, deceased:
https://www.thenation.com/article/this- ... as-murder/
https://www.theguardian.com/media/anna-politkovskaya
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... 68c29a6ed2
BORIS BEREZOVSKY Russian oligarch, critic deceased:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/ ... putin-feud
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 17927.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/24/world ... at-67.html
STANISLAV MARKELOV, human rights lawyer, and ANASTASIA BABUROVA, journalist, critic deceased:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/20/world ... chnya.html
DENIS VORONENKOV, politician, critic, deceased:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/23/worl ... raine.html
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/23/europe/uk ... ov-killed/
PAUL KLEBNIKOV, AMERICAN journalist working in Russia, and critic, deceased:
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07/10/world ... ussia.html
And on a side note, one of the most respected Russians alive, Gary Kasparov, grand master chess champion who fled Russia after a receiving a tip of a hit on him, this peice is written by him, and illustrates exactly the type of leader Putin is:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/postever ... 73dfb1392e
*edit: sweet it auto url-ed it. Well that's a mighty long research list for you to get familiar with topic, enjoy!
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"You Don't Do Evidence Well I Do" Trey Gowdy Demands Answers On Trump Russia Collusion. (5/23/17)
To me this is just a continuing example of how they do a lot of taking and stammering without actually saying anything, while looking very uncomfortable and nervous. The so called evidence is still after all this time something vague, mysterious and secret. No progression whatsoever.
And now for the next testimony:
The CIA's job is to collect and analyze information, evidence is a legal term that would apply to the FBI and DOJ. The CIA and NSA don't bring lawsuits, so no they really don't do evidence, they collect information, follow leads in that information, and pass that information onto the president and his team so the president can make informed decisions. They also don't operate in the United States, their jurisdiction is exclusively international, meaning if Brennan saw anything he thought could be collusion which he stated he did today, he would have found that on foreign grounds or through an allied intelligence agency.
So basically any testimony in this investigation given by a the CIA and NSA is of no value from a legal standpoint.
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How? Do you consider them some up against the wall motherf**kers?
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So basically any testimony in this investigation given by a the CIA and NSA is of no value from a legal standpoint.
They would provide leads, but the FBI likes to conduct their own investigation. They do much better than the CIA or military with interviewing suspects. They play it very cool, no torture at all. It gets better results.
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So basically any testimony in this investigation given by a the CIA and NSA is of no value from a legal standpoint.
Pretty much, but congressional investigations aren't courts of law. The foreign intelligence agencies gather information on foreign threats, we don't sue foreign threats, we either negotiate or attack, so it's a completely different ballgame than the legal framework the FBI has to work in domestically. That's why Brennan's statement sounds ridiculous, but it's actually truthful. Let me put it this way: we don't sue Ibraham al-Terrorist in Afghanistan, we kill him, he has no rights because he's not an American citizen, there's no need to collect enough evidence to prove anything 'beyond a reasonable doubt'-- the threshold we use in our legal system. The FBI on the other hand has to prove a case in court of law to convict the suspect. That's also why you'll see the FBI refuse to answer a question in a hearing with "I can't answer that because of an ongoing investigation" because whatever statement they make could be used against the government in a court of law if the investigation leads to an arrest; whereas the CIA will answer most questions albeit in a vague way (don't want to tip your hand to a foreign threat), and only refuse to answer due to "classified information." Intelligence has always been a problem in democracies where the citizens demand transparency, but the alternative is to disclose everything and run the most inept intelligence agency in the history of existence. That's also why these investigations seem like dog and pony shows, most of the information of value the senators and reps receive is after the public hearing when they're briefed in private. Democracy can be messy, especially when we're talking spying, but to take spying out of the equation would eliminate one of our defense tools.
And let me guess you want Trump to fill the agencies with all his people? And that wouldn't be political? Or would you rather we have no intelligence agencies and be blind to external threats?
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We're supposed to take Putin at his word?
No we're supposed to automatically conclude he's lying.
Well, considering his past history with his neighbors, and now with Germany, France, and the Netherlands, and of course us...
Exactly. He's the quintessential evil bad guy. Well, right after Trump that is.
No, Trump is a narcissistic buffoon being played like a fiddle by Putin. Putin is the living embodiment of a Bond villain.
So all the bad stuff they say Trump has done is only a result of Blofeld fiddle playing him? I mean what's with the comparisons of Trump to Hitler and Stalin and Mussolini and Nero then? Who was fiddling them? I mean I've heard that Nero fiddled, but I never heard he was being fiddled.
I never said Trump was an innocent. He's an appetite driven narcissist who Putin realized he could easily manipulate.
Isn't easily manipulated narcissist an oxymoron? I mean one of the primary traits of a narcissist is how extremely manipulative they are.
So exactly how has been Putin manipulating Trump? I'm guessing he didn't manipulate Trump into bombing Syria. So where's the evidence of Putin manipulating Trump?
Trump's inflated ego makes him easy prey for those like Putin who knows how to use that ego stroking to his advantage.
That's just a blanket statement, like something made up and passed off as fact.
What evidence is there of Putin manipulating Trump?
What has Trump done so far that's evidence of Putin manipulating him?
His campaign promises of getting closer to Russia, denying that Russia even invaded Ukraine, winking at Russia's ambitions of gobbling up their neighbors, calling for ending our relationship with NATO, defending Putin's rep as a killer, not to mention his support for populist strongmen-in-waiting in Europe - all of whom were supported by Putin - just to name a few things. Luckily, those things haven't worked out so far. Then there was the recent incident in the White House where American media was banned, but Putin's state controlled media were invited, where Trump shared classified intelligence with them.
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Interesting article comparing conspiracy theorists on the left and right.
https://newrepublic.com/article/142828/ ... servatives
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I read up on DJT revealing info about our subs to Duterte, and a pattern of bragging seems apparent. DJT's support for Duterte's ongoing massacre should bother anyone. That aside, the Philippines aren't part of any operation involving the DPRK, and anyway, as three defense officials told Buzzfeed, "We never talk about subs!" The rolling dumpster fire rolls on.
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Of course; Trump sees Dutere as a fellow strongman.
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