Fun fun, fun, its all about fun, there is nothing out.
Or it could be a bit about getting to know someone, learning if two people can properly deal with each other and communicate. And doing something because it makes them feel happy, and therefore makes you feel happy.
Yeah, doing the same thing over and over again gets boring. Without the downs do the ups even exist? Or are we all pigging out on soma because we're a bunch of hedonistic pricks who only exist for our own enjoyments. I really don't understand people like that. To each his own until someone stomps your face into the mud because you're less priveleged in social interaction.
Or I could stop begining sentences with conjunctions.
^ I think that's the mentality which led to the supposed instant gratification ideas around online dating.
I simply told m'lady she is not a profile.
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I think you misunderstood what I meant by "fun". It doesn't need to be getting wasted in crappy bars, urinating on a streetlight at 4:00 AM, and having one-night stands. It can be stuff like playing Cards Against Humanity, classy Latin dancing, hiking all day in the woods, or a house party that's NOT all couples. Heck, me and my friend (female) once went walking around a historic town, and salsa danced right in the street, where the music was coming from a Puerto Rican restaurant. That's neither wild nor expensive. A little crazy? Maybe. But more fun than what most people my age do in relationships. Although truth be told, my friend is 22. An age when such dancing is more acceptable.
Unfortunately, my friends' relationships aren't "fun", but rather like I've been describing ad nauseam. You know, staying home all the time and never leaving each other's side. So if wanting no part of it is wrong, I don't want to be right. However, I know I'm in the minority: most women my age want a relationship like that of my friends. The only exception to it is my Meetup groups. It's strange: either they attract weirdos like me, or there's an unwritten rule against "those" couples joining. So while I'm looking toward Meetup to find dates, I still think I'm better off staying single.
If you consider the amount of people in ltrs who are desperately unhappy and who tell single people that relationships are nothing but a trap and a mysery then you can't really blame us single folks for being terrified of commitnent.
Granted I've gone down the celibacy route and the fun I have is going on day trips with my good female friends or having married friends and their kids over to play board games, so im maybe not the target demographic of this thread.
However, when I've told some women in committed relationships that I'm lonely and I do want to settle down they say things along these lines:
scenario, friend of a friend announces engagement on instagram. I start crying. Mutual friend says: but its not all like that you're only seeing one part of a relationship here. There's bad things about relationships too.
Scenario, to make me feel better older unhappily married woman tells me about how unhappy she is and tells me that relationships suck and you're better off single.
scenario, widowed friend tells me that I.'m not going to be magically happy if I have a boyfriend, treats me like an idiot for being human and wanting to be loved.
Bad things happen in relationships, you fall in love, you get hurt is the retoric I've been fed over and over again. And I know men are told similaŕ things by other men.
Plus , even if you had the ideal of an ltr when you were younger, you maybe can't find someone else willing to be committed to you. I'm sure if joined tinder I'd get plenty of "fun", its difficult to find another person to connect with if you're weird or a bit off.
So the choice is fun or celibacy.
Fun for me is being spontaneous, playful, like a romantic camping trip. I'd like to be romantica and have lots of sex. Stuff that doesn't happen in a committed relationship with kids. I want that Roma tic, spontaneous, sex filled 1st relation most people got and now they want the settle down, kids and responsibility, planning retirement relationship.
Fun for me can just be a Tictle fight in bed followed by cuddling. Or playing boards games together.
I don't want to be a dad right away in a relationship. I don't want to be super serious and responsible all the time. I don't think fun or serious has anything to do with committed relationships since all that is is two people being in a relationship for s long time and only with each other. You can be partying type, adventurous type, or home busy type. So I don't view it as fun vs committed relationship, but young vs old relationships. I desire the fun early type relationship, I don't desire nor am I amble to do do the older serious relationship until I've had the young one. Which is likely impossible as most of not all women in my area already had that relationship type and want the serious one now.
Granted I've gone down the celibacy route and the fun I have is going on day trips with my good female friends or having married friends and their kids over to play board games, so im maybe not the target demographic of this thread.
However, when I've told some women in committed relationships that I'm lonely and I do want to settle down they say things along these lines:
scenario, friend of a friend announces engagement on instagram. I start crying. Mutual friend says: but its not all like that you're only seeing one part of a relationship here. There's bad things about relationships too.
Scenario, to make me feel better older unhappily married woman tells me about how unhappy she is and tells me that relationships suck and you're better off single.
scenario, widowed friend tells me that I.'m not going to be magically happy if I have a boyfriend, treats me like an idiot for being human and wanting to be loved.
Bad things happen in relationships, you fall in love, you get hurt is the retoric I've been fed over and over again. And I know men are told similaŕ things by other men.
Plus , even if you had the ideal of an ltr when you were younger, you maybe can't find someone else willing to be committed to you. I'm sure if joined tinder I'd get plenty of "fun", its difficult to find another person to connect with if you're weird or a bit off.
So the choice is fun or celibacy.
And super rich people tell us it sucks being rich and we better off poor. The "has" people always want to keep the "has nots" people from experiencing what they have. Been this way since humans existed
We're all crafty peasants in one way or another though.
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I think you misunderstood what I meant by "fun". It doesn't need to be getting wasted in crappy bars, urinating on a streetlight at 4:00 AM, and having one-night stands. It can be stuff like playing Cards Against Humanity, classy Latin dancing, hiking all day in the woods, or a house party that's NOT all couples. Heck, me and my friend (female) once went walking around a historic town, and salsa danced right in the street, where the music was coming from a Puerto Rican restaurant. That's neither wild nor expensive. A little crazy? Maybe. But more fun than what most people my age do in relationships. Although truth be told, my friend is 22. An age when such dancing is more acceptable.
Unfortunately, my friends' relationships aren't "fun", but rather like I've been describing ad nauseam. You know, staying home all the time and never leaving each other's side. So if wanting no part of it is wrong, I don't want to be right. However, I know I'm in the minority: most women my age want a relationship like that of my friends. The only exception to it is my Meetup groups. It's strange: either they attract weirdos like me, or there's an unwritten rule against "those" couples joining. So while I'm looking toward Meetup to find dates, I still think I'm better off staying single.
Well it seems your friends are the opposite extreme, having no real fun and taking everything to serious, that is not good either. I mean I have to wonder if they are really comfortable with eachother if they always have to make a display about being in a relationship. I think there should be a balance between fun and seriousness because there are actual things to discuss like finances and paying rent if you live together. But I was referring more to like partying fun than just doing activities you find fun. And I am not judging that so much but I tried out the partier lifestyle for a while and it wasn't really worth while. Kinda more fun to hang around people you know and chill then get all crazy going to parties and such.
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And super rich people tell us it sucks being rich and we better off poor. The "has" people always want to keep the "has nots" people from experiencing what they have. Been this way since humans existed[/quote]
No I don't think there is anything more sinister behind this advice other than they are unhappy and don't want me to be unhappy.
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you are not our parents.
Sweetleaf and Co.: stop imposing your relationship ideals on others.
In what way am I imposing anything...people are free to disregard this if they want, it's just an opinion lol.
Well yeah, you are trying to preach us your relationship ideals.
To each his own.
you are not our parents.
Sweetleaf and Co.: stop imposing your relationship ideals on others.
In what way am I imposing anything...people are free to disregard this if they want, it's just an opinion lol.
Lol, maybe you touched a nerve.
And super rich people tell us it sucks being rich and we better off poor. The "has" people always want to keep the "has nots" people from experiencing what they have. Been this way since humans existed
No I don't think there is anything more sinister behind this advice other than they are unhappy and don't want me to be unhappy.[/quote]
Maybe but if they're so freaking unhappy, why stay in the relationship?
I think they happy most of the time, but focus on the times when they weren't. It's crazy to expect to be happy all the time in a relationship, (one reason I don't get the no drama allowed women, life is drama it can't be avoided) I've known people who tell me I better off or love doesn't exist but they love each other and stay together. Truely unhappy people break up or get divorced. If they sticking together then there is happiness and love that keeps them together though the bad times.
I want that. I'll gladly take the bad times too.
Fun for me can just be a Tictle fight in bed followed by cuddling. Or playing boards games together.
I also play board games on a regular basis with my Meetup groups. My friend, described in the earlier posts, comes along most times, and likes board games too. Unlike a lot of things I find fun, board games are nowhere near "immature" .