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26 May 2017, 2:38 am

Half Of Autistic Adults Feel A Low Sense Of Well Being
https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilywilli ... be4aca7bd1

The article touches on autism and aging. I don't remember seeing an article about Autism touch on aging before. I'm kind of scared of aging.



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26 May 2017, 9:32 am

That was an interesting article. I liked the bit at the end that said autistic people were more present and respected at this conference than previous ones.



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26 May 2017, 10:15 am

I am not sure how and if this "remember to remember" is related(I am 28 and I always had problems with this but it's actually better now than it was when I were a kid) but I read that autistic people are less prone to Alzheimer. Good to know.



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26 May 2017, 11:50 am

Unfortunately, I can't access the article because I have Ad-Blocker, and I won't Whitelist anything because I have limited bandwidth, and there's always alot of moving stuff----but, in regard to your being scared of aging, I'm thinking it's possible that it's just one of those fear-of-the-unknown things, and I would suggest to try and look at it as alot more opportunities to learn-better / grow.










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26 May 2017, 12:05 pm

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Unfortunately, I can't access the article because I have Ad-Blocker, and I won't Whitelist anything because I have limited bandwidth, and there's always alot of moving stuff----but, in regard to your being scared of aging, I'm thinking it's possible that it's just one of those fear-of-the-unknown things, and I would suggest to try and look at it as alot more opportunities to learn-better / grow.


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Researchers are finally turning their attention to autistic adults and trying to figure out factors that affect their quality of life. In a series of presentations at the international autism conference IMFAR in San Francisco, UK scientists showed what happens when you survey autistic adults and ask them where their lives might be improved.

Several interesting if not unexpected findings emerged from the suite of presentations in the panel on "Measuring and Predicting Quality of Life in Older Adults with Autism." It's a question that's been a long time in the asking.

First, in one cohort of autistic adults, researchers asked participants on a questionnaire if they were male or female, and 13 of the 370 respondents said that they had no binary response to that question. That result seemed noteworthy enough for comment at the meeting, although it’s becoming increasingly clear, at least anecdotally, that in the autistic population, not identifying in the male–female binary is a common response among autistic people. It seems fitting that people who have a place in a varied and diverse spectrum bound by a common set of traits might also embody and visualize for themselves a similar spectrum of sex and gender.

Across the board, the series of presentations repeatedly indicated that autistic adults tend to report a lower quality of life compared to nonautistic adults. That’s not surprising given the lack of recognition in some quarters that autistic adults even exist and lack of infrastructure in place for this community. Indeed, the very novelty of these presentations, delivered to a packed house, attests to the fact that we’re only at the beginning of learning and asking what autistic adults need.

Among factors that emerged as influences on the reduced quality of life that autistic adults experience are factors related to social experiences and psychological distress. Some findings seem to point away from age as having a role, but in one set of results that Hilde Geurts from the University of Amsterdam presented, one in two autistic adults in her survey reported having a low sense of well-being. That’s half of autistic adults who don’t feel great about their lives. If this were a conference focused on most other groups, that finding would be a headline. So I made it one here.

These survey studies also revealed a weak point when it comes to instruments normed to neurotypical populations: they literally do not translate well to autistic respondents. As an example, Helen McConachie of Newcastle University noted that the phrasing of questions in the quality of life questionnaire (WHO QoL-DIS) that her team used really threw off many of the adult autistic participants. One question asked about how the autistic adult felt about their bodily appearance. An autistic respondent drily and accurately noted, “I haven’t got a lot of say in the matter,” basically observing that when it comes to bodily appearance, you get what you get. They did note, however, that they do go to the gym.

Another presenter, Amanda Roestorf of City University of London, looked at what happens with a specific kind of memory called prospective memory in autistic people as they age. Prospective memory, said Roestorf, is the ability to "remember to remember," to retain and remember a mental to-do list for the future. She also found lower quality of life among autistic adults compared to non-autistic adults across all domains measured.

Her data were preliminary, but she also reported specific differences associated with prospective memory in autistic adults compared to nonautistic adults. One possible consequence of such differences is that autistic adults may have greater difficulty navigating arenas like healthcare, including medication adherence, with age. She concluded her findings by asserting that there is a “different kind of aging for autistic adults than for nonautistic adults.”

The focus at IMFAR on an autistic perspective and autistic adults represents a change in attitudes and emphasis at this enormous international conference over the years. Five years ago, the phrasing in most of these talks was “people with autism” and “subjects” with a distinct tone of condescension, and the populations in the studies were mostly boys. This year, people are “autistic people,” the tone is one of much greater respect and care, autistic people were visible and participating, and researchers seem to have realized that not all autistic people are little boys. Looking at the arc of language in autism research over the last decade-plus, this new tone and language present as stark a contrast to earlier years as the shift in research questions themselves.

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26 May 2017, 1:53 pm

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The article touches on autism and aging. I don't remember seeing an article about Autism touch on aging before. I'm kind of scared of aging.


I'm completely the opposite - I think aging will feel in a way freeing to me. I'm 35 and my family and people around expect me to participate in society - be productive, maybe accumulate some wealth, keep fit and attractive, follow the paths of so many people before me, considered the right way of living. I'm not doing it great, to say the least and I think when you're old, you're just... old. Kind of more on the fringes of society. Nobody really cares, nobody pressurizes you to do anything. You're one amongst many old people, equally wrinkly, equally moaning about bad weather ;) , with deteriorating health. You're a bit... invisible. Many NT people hate this invisibility and try to go back to the memories of their younger selves, but for me being invisible - GREAT! ;)

I'm only kind of scared of needing to be dependant on other people and chronic pain.



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26 May 2017, 2:40 pm

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but, in regard to your being scared of aging, I'm thinking it's possible that it's just one of those fear-of-the-unknown things, and I would suggest to try and look at it as alot more opportunities to learn-better / grow.


It's really more a fear of the known than the unknown. I'm watching my mother deteriorate rapidly, and I'm seeing all the problems she's having with communication. It's a good thing my dad can read her as well as he can. Right now he's her voice.

I've been with her at the hospitals. I've been woken with her every 15 minutes as the nurses and doctors came in and out to check things and do things on their time table. I have no idea how anyone recovers from anything with a sleep schedule like that. I've held her hand through the scary procedures. I've watched her lose her physical abilities and I frankly have no idea what's left of her mind at the moment. I'm single. Right now I like that. But some day I will be old, and I will be subjected to the noise and lights and touches of people who are paid to care for me. I will likely lose some or most or even all of my ability to effectively communicate. Nobody will be able to read me to know my needs/desires. I will be scared and uncomfortable and alone.

I kind of hope I die of a heart attack or something before any of that happens.



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26 May 2017, 3:22 pm

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Unfortunately, I can't access the article because I have Ad-Blocker, and I won't Whitelist anything because I have limited bandwidth, and there's always alot of moving stuff----but, in regard to your being scared of aging, I'm thinking it's possible that it's just one of those fear-of-the-unknown things, and I would suggest to try and look at it as alot more opportunities to learn-better / grow.

I just turned off ad blocker , copy & pasted then turn it back on.

Wow, I can't believe you did that----thankyou, so very, very MUCH; I really appreciate it!!

I don't know what, really, to say about the article, cuz the whole time I was thinking: "Yeah, these adults are probably like, 23..."----NOT that they aren't adults, or that no one should be checking with them, but I just wish people would start talking to people like us, on here, that are, like, 40/50+ (and everybody in-between, really, to get a genuinely full "measure", of things).

Anyway, the best part about the article, IMO, was the last paragraph----about their attitudes changing from "condescension" to "respect and care", and that autistic people were "visible and participating".





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26 May 2017, 3:39 pm

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...but, in regard to your being scared of aging, I'm thinking it's possible that it's just one of those fear-of-the-unknown things, and I would suggest to try and look at it as alot more opportunities to learn-better / grow.

It's really more a fear of the known than the unknown. I'm watching my mother deteriorate rapidly, and I'm seeing all the problems she's having with communication. It's a good thing my dad can read her as well as he can. Right now he's her voice.

I've been with her at the hospitals. I've been woken with her every 15 minutes as the nurses and doctors came in and out to check things and do things on their time table. I have no idea how anyone recovers from anything with a sleep schedule like that. I've held her hand through the scary procedures. I've watched her lose her physical abilities and I frankly have no idea what's left of her mind at the moment. I'm single. Right now I like that. But some day I will be old, and I will be subjected to the noise and lights and touches of people who are paid to care for me. I will likely lose some or most or even all of my ability to effectively communicate. Nobody will be able to read me to know my needs/desires. I will be scared and uncomfortable and alone.

I kind of hope I die of a heart attack or something before any of that happens.

Ah, yes----that's quite "a horse of a different color", now, and I can definitely understand where you're coming-from, as I am single, as well (and more than 20 years older, and closer, maybe, to that being my outcome), and have had to put the thoughts / worries out of my mind, regarding my, possibly, being infirmed and having no one to help / be on my side, regarding my care, or I could just practically worry myself to death, about it.

I'm with ya on hoping I die in my sleep (or heart attack), as well.....





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26 May 2017, 3:47 pm

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Unfortunately, I can't access the article because I have Ad-Blocker, and I won't Whitelist anything because I have limited bandwidth, and there's always alot of moving stuff----but, in regard to your being scared of aging, I'm thinking it's possible that it's just one of those fear-of-the-unknown things, and I would suggest to try and look at it as alot more opportunities to learn-better / grow.

I just turned off ad blocker , copy & pasted then turn it back on.

Wow, I can't believe you did that----thankyou, so very, very MUCH; I really appreciate it!!

I don't know what, really, to say about the article, cuz the whole time I was thinking: "Yeah, these adults are probably like, 23..."----NOT that they aren't adults, or that no one should be checking with them, but I just wish people would start talking to people like us, on here, that are, like, 40/50+ (and everybody in-between, really, to get a genuinely full "measure", of things).

Anyway, the best part about the article, IMO, was the last paragraph----about their attitudes changing from "condescension" to "respect and care", and that autistic people were "visible and participating".


Happy to help :)

I know what you mean about adults & age , an adult of 23 is just a kid to me ( I don't mean that in derogatory way though )


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26 May 2017, 5:14 pm

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I know what you mean about adults & age, an adult of 23 is just a kid to me ( I don't mean that in derogatory way though )

Yeah, I know wha'cha mean----I feel that way about them, as well----but, I know (and have to keep reminding myself) that age doesn't really mean much, cuz I have seen sooooo many "kids" with a VERY good head on their shoulders, and have seen people who were 50/60-years-old, that, IMO, didn't have a brain in their entire body. What else have we got, though? (LOL) It's a rite of passage----when we were young, there was never a shortage of people who were all-too-happy to remind us that they were older, and knew more / better / whatever, so.....

When they get to our age, they, TOO, will be talkin'-about "the kids of today", as well.





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26 May 2017, 6:08 pm

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I know what you mean about adults & age, an adult of 23 is just a kid to me ( I don't mean that in derogatory way though )



When they get to our age, they, TOO, will be talkin'-about "the kids of today", as well.


They sure will , and their music will still be awful and the clothes even worse :lol:


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26 May 2017, 11:37 pm

The short article was not nearly enough information to begin to satisfy me. I need more.