Details of Russian Hacking in Leaked NSA Document

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I am glad you are aware of the chain of command, many are not and simply believe Clinton will take command.


I am aware an conviction would have to be made in order to forcibly remove someone from office. It doesn't change the fact, that is the ultimate goal that many are aiming for. But this is getting into a different topic, especially on Clinton's impeachment where senate was just merely voting with party (All 45 Democrats Voted Not Guilty on Both Charges). Yet Clinton was cited for contempt of court by FDJ Susan Wright. Also settled out of court with Jones for $850,000.

But even Clinton his self admits to perjury...

And think about how long ago that was. Back then I'm sure it was a huge deal. Now it's ancient history. Things come and go. People need to chill.

That 2nd video of Clinton lol.

It is amazing to me that so many people think impeaching Trump means he is removed from office. We really need to start teaching civics again. The House of Representatives brings articles of impeachment by majority vote. In the Senate the impeached official is tried for those articles of impeachment. A two thirds majority of those present is needed to convict the official.

Lets talk reality here. I hear all this talk about the Democrats winning both Houses of Congress and "Impeaching Trump". First of all in the next mid term election in the Senate 25 Democrates are up for election and only 8 Republcans are up for relection. In the House everybody is up for reelection. So if Trump continues to slide in popularity maybe the Democrates gain control of House but the Republicans still will likely gain seats in the Senate. Let's say Trump support completly collapses he strarts foaming at the mouth during speeches and shoots people on fifth avenue and the Dems gain control of both houses of congress. The House will almost certainly bring articles of impeachment but you are still going to need a bunch of Republicans to vote to convict him.

Removing him via the 25th amendment is even more convoluted. Reality is barring an major health crises or mental difficulties much much more then is already obvoius the next plausable chance of removing him is the 2020 election.

We'll have to see how this investigation into Russian collusion in our election proceeds. It's possible that the results could be Watergate like; it's possible that all charges leveled at Trump will be debunked.

There are many Republicans who don't really care for Trump---but for different reasons than the Democrats. Some Republicans don't think Trump "goes far enough" as far as health care is concerned. At least some of these conservatives think that Trump is morally debased.

We shall see. It could end up either way, in my opinion.

Comey's Opening Statement

As for the rest of the one on one conversations:



But even then, here on 5-8-2016. This contradicts his memos:

I do not think Watergate like gets him removed. While the words trial and conviction are used impeachment is a political process not a legal one. I am positive Republican congresspeople loathe Trump and want Pence to president for many reasons. If they want to keep thier job they have to deal with a large segment of Republican voters. 96 percent of Trump voters would vote for him again despite the 2 years of relentless negative news that would have doomed any polition previous to 2015 dozens of times over.

What would it take to pry them away from him in enough numbers so Republican Senators would vote to convict? I am not sure him foaming at mouth or shooting people on fifth avenue would do it. Those pictures would be viewed as fake news created by a Trump hating media and the deep state at this point. That is where we are now. The vast majority of voters would be appaled and his approval ratings would be the lowest in history should those images emerge but that is not the voters that matter to Republican congress people. They would be faced with a choice of political suicide in the primaries or the general election if things go to that extreme.

Is a girl who gets raped to blame because she was wearing a short skirt?

The fact that Trump and company have been showing a whole lot of consciencness of guilt, especially with firing Colmy, speaks volumes that they are hiding something about this.

Why do you insist on put words in his mouth?



Trump is not under investigation and that was made clear in Comey's opening statement today. The firing of Comey should have happened under Obama, but that never happened. Funny enough, most people never herd of Comey until recently.

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That's a ridiculous analogy.

This is more like an intelligent able minded grown man willingly handing the keys to his company's file room to a total stranger, when he should have known better.

Or a business that doesn't use a burglar alarm and leaves it's doors and windows unlocked and has a sign out front that says 'feel free to rob us'.

People who have unrealistic hopes pinned on this are going to be disappointed with the outcome.

This is my conclusion for most the media and the people who believe it.

Trump being involved is very, very unlikely. That said firing Comey when he did was a foolish move if only because it raises questions as to why, and gives rise to things like conspiracy theories and the like-- an imaging problem he's going to have to deal with for a long time. It's like an unforced error in baseball. If Comey's the bumbling idiot both sides seem to think he is, Trump was better off with Comey in place as opposed to Mueller, who's an aggressive investigator and a boyscout by all measures. Along those lines, Trump would be wise to just get out of the conversation altogether and let his crisis team handle this, the less his name is combined with Russia investigation the better off he'll be. That's precisely what Bill Clinton did for 7 years and it worked magic for him, it could do the same for Trump if he had the discipline to stay on script.

This made me laugh. DJT has no measurable ability to stay out of conversations when he should.

The issue of Comey/Flynn revolves around obstruction of justice. If one of us asked a witness to a crime to let it go because the alleged criminal is a good guy, we would be obstructing justice. For a prosecutor's boss to ask a prosecutor the same is even worse, more like if we hinted we could get that witness fired from their job if they didn't let it go.

We actually need a Comey topic, and to let this one get back to Russian hacking. Here:
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With the prepared testimony in full. Save the endangered click, or something.

Apparently, The Intercept let the NSA examine the document, or a copy of it, and that helped them find the printer it came from. A serious lapse of judgement on the part of the reporters, although you couldn't ask the NSA to comment on it, and then refuse to show them what you have. A conundrum.

http://www.npr.org/2017/06/07/531956597 ... uilty-plea

Wikileaks is offering another reward. $10K for information leading to the public exposure and termination of the reporter.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/wikileaks- ... -intercept

If that works so well, then why does this site currently have 7 pages (approx 350 entries) of spam from the same spammer who's been spamming here for years?