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14 Jun 2017, 9:21 pm

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American insurance businesses seemed to support the idea of restricting classified diagnoses to disorders to avoid fanciful subclinical characteristics which aren't diagnoses.

According to DSMV A disorder is a behavioral or mental pattern that may cause suffering or a poor ability to function in life.
Sounds like an open and shut case that Autism is a disorder

Baron-Cohen is simply playing on language in order to remove stigma and demonstrate that people diagnosed with ASD (or at least some of us) can be fully functional members of society effectively operating as if they don't have a disorder.



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15 Jun 2017, 6:44 am

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...Baron-Cohen is simply playing on language in order to remove stigma and demonstrate that people diagnosed with ASD (or at least some of us) can be fully functional members of society effectively operating as if they don't have a disorder.

Or, as the man who helped introduce the world to Broader Autism Phenotype (BAP), maybe he is attempting to carve out some subclinical diagnoses which could help others without upsetting the insurance businesses.


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15 Jun 2017, 11:28 am

cyberdad wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
American insurance businesses seemed to support the idea of restricting classified diagnoses to disorders to avoid fanciful subclinical characteristics which aren't diagnoses.

According to DSMV A disorder is a behavioral or mental pattern that may cause suffering or a poor ability to function in life.
Sounds like an open and shut case that Autism is a disorder

Baron-Cohen is simply playing on language in order to remove stigma and demonstrate that people diagnosed with ASD (or at least some of us) can be fully functional members of society effectively operating as if they don't have a disorder.


That describes every personality trait known to man because they MAY cause impairments depending on societal norms, who the person interacts with etc.


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15 Jun 2017, 8:53 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
AspieUtah wrote:
American insurance businesses seemed to support the idea of restricting classified diagnoses to disorders to avoid fanciful subclinical characteristics which aren't diagnoses.

According to DSMV A disorder is a behavioral or mental pattern that may cause suffering or a poor ability to function in life.
Sounds like an open and shut case that Autism is a disorder

Baron-Cohen is simply playing on language in order to remove stigma and demonstrate that people diagnosed with ASD (or at least some of us) can be fully functional members of society effectively operating as if they don't have a disorder.


That describes every personality trait known to man because they MAY cause impairments depending on societal norms, who the person interacts with etc.

I think personality traits you mention would need to be consistently causing loss of functionality to be classified as a disorder i.e. narcissism or BPD



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15 Jun 2017, 8:56 pm

AspieUtah wrote:
cyberdad wrote:
...Baron-Cohen is simply playing on language in order to remove stigma and demonstrate that people diagnosed with ASD (or at least some of us) can be fully functional members of society effectively operating as if they don't have a disorder.

Or, as the man who helped introduce the world to Broader Autism Phenotype (BAP), maybe he is attempting to carve out some subclinical diagnoses which could help others without upsetting the insurance businesses.

Yes the BAP is somewhat problematic given the overlap with mild compulsive disorders



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14 Jul 2017, 1:53 am

So the Baron is finally coming around. Does this mean he no longer thinks he's studying the SCIENCE OF EVIL or that we have ZERO DEGREES OF EMPATHY? (He wrote 2 books with those titles.)