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EzraS
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21 Jun 2017, 10:47 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
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Even so, the Democrats at least have minorities to showcase. The Republican party is still a white out snow storm.


Showcase sounds like put there for display purposes.

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The only reason why past wrongs are past is because people not only talked about said wrongs, but did something about them.
Contrary to what conservatives say today, racism is not a thing of the past, and it still needs to be fought.


I think it's inadvertently being kept alive.


It's not being inadvertently being kept alive. It's alive, because there are still people who hate "the other." To say that it's being kept alive by talking about it is actually meaning, just keep quiet about being stepped on.
Bill Maher said it: The new racism is denying racism still exists.


So when does it ever end?

Edit: I know, when conservatives no longer exist, right?



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22 Jun 2017, 1:22 am

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Even so, the Democrats at least have minorities to showcase. The Republican party is still a white out snow storm.


Showcase sounds like put there for display purposes.

Kraichgauer wrote:
The only reason why past wrongs are past is because people not only talked about said wrongs, but did something about them.
Contrary to what conservatives say today, racism is not a thing of the past, and it still needs to be fought.


I think it's inadvertently being kept alive.


It's not being inadvertently being kept alive. It's alive, because there are still people who hate "the other." To say that it's being kept alive by talking about it is actually meaning, just keep quiet about being stepped on.
Bill Maher said it: The new racism is denying racism still exists.


So when does it ever end?

Edit: I know, when conservatives no longer exist, right?


No of course not; there are many fair minded conservatives who hate racism.
As for when will it end? When there are no longer any humans.


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22 Jun 2017, 1:50 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Even so, the Democrats at least have minorities to showcase. The Republican party is still a white out snow storm.


Showcase sounds like put there for display purposes.

Kraichgauer wrote:
The only reason why past wrongs are past is because people not only talked about said wrongs, but did something about them.
Contrary to what conservatives say today, racism is not a thing of the past, and it still needs to be fought.


I think it's inadvertently being kept alive.


It's not being inadvertently being kept alive. It's alive, because there are still people who hate "the other." To say that it's being kept alive by talking about it is actually meaning, just keep quiet about being stepped on.
Bill Maher said it: The new racism is denying racism still exists.


So when does it ever end?

Edit: I know, when conservatives no longer exist, right?


No of course not; there are many fair minded conservatives who hate racism.
As for when will it end? When there are no longer any humans.


But racism is mainly a problem because of white conservatives correct?



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22 Jun 2017, 4:08 am

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Even so, the Democrats at least have minorities to showcase. The Republican party is still a white out snow storm.


Showcase sounds like put there for display purposes.

Kraichgauer wrote:
The only reason why past wrongs are past is because people not only talked about said wrongs, but did something about them.
Contrary to what conservatives say today, racism is not a thing of the past, and it still needs to be fought.


I think it's inadvertently being kept alive.


It's not being inadvertently being kept alive. It's alive, because there are still people who hate "the other." To say that it's being kept alive by talking about it is actually meaning, just keep quiet about being stepped on.
Bill Maher said it: The new racism is denying racism still exists.


So when does it ever end?

Edit: I know, when conservatives no longer exist, right?


No of course not; there are many fair minded conservatives who hate racism.
As for when will it end? When there are no longer any humans.


But racism is mainly a problem because of white conservatives correct?

Dos the sun rise in the morning?



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22 Jun 2017, 6:00 am

EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Even so, the Democrats at least have minorities to showcase. The Republican party is still a white out snow storm.


Showcase sounds like put there for display purposes.

Kraichgauer wrote:
The only reason why past wrongs are past is because people not only talked about said wrongs, but did something about them.
Contrary to what conservatives say today, racism is not a thing of the past, and it still needs to be fought.


I think it's inadvertently being kept alive.


It's not being inadvertently being kept alive. It's alive, because there are still people who hate "the other." To say that it's being kept alive by talking about it is actually meaning, just keep quiet about being stepped on.
Bill Maher said it: The new racism is denying racism still exists.


So when does it ever end?

Edit: I know, when conservatives no longer exist, right?


No of course not; there are many fair minded conservatives who hate racism.
As for when will it end? When there are no longer any humans.


But racism is mainly a problem because of white conservatives correct?


In the case of the industrialized west, where whites are the majority and have most of the power, and where conservatives are the bloc yearning for the "good old days," even if those good old days were plagued with racism and other forms of discrimination, then the answer is essentially, yes.


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22 Jun 2017, 6:14 am

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As for when will it end? When there are no longer any humans.

Humans are irredeemable? Do you view racism as an inherent trait or as a learned response?
Even as an agnostic, untrusting of my fellow man, I can see some glimmer of hope. In a distant future.


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In the case of the industrialized west, where whites are the majority and have most of the power, and where conservatives are the bloc yearning for the "good old days," even if those good old days were plagued with racism and other forms of discrimination, then the answer is essentially, yes.


That is a rationalization. The Reagan years were nothing like that.



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22 Jun 2017, 7:11 am

cyberdad wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
Even so, the Democrats at least have minorities to showcase. The Republican party is still a white out snow storm.


Showcase sounds like put there for display purposes.

Kraichgauer wrote:
The only reason why past wrongs are past is because people not only talked about said wrongs, but did something about them.
Contrary to what conservatives say today, racism is not a thing of the past, and it still needs to be fought.


I think it's inadvertently being kept alive.


It's not being inadvertently being kept alive. It's alive, because there are still people who hate "the other." To say that it's being kept alive by talking about it is actually meaning, just keep quiet about being stepped on.
Bill Maher said it: The new racism is denying racism still exists.


So when does it ever end?

Edit: I know, when conservatives no longer exist, right?


No of course not; there are many fair minded conservatives who hate racism.
As for when will it end? When there are no longer any humans.


But racism is mainly a problem because of white conservatives correct?

Dos the sun rise in the morning?


Ah so to avoid the chance of becoming allied with neo-nazis and the kkk, I should avoid becoming a conservative like the plague, correct?



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22 Jun 2017, 7:15 am

We need conservatives. We need liberals. We don't need racism.

Woodrow Wilson, an idealist sort of liberal, was a racist.



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22 Jun 2017, 7:33 am

And in order to become a wonderful person overflowing with love and acceptance of the downtrodden and a champion of humanity plus numerous other virtues, I need to embrace liberalism.



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22 Jun 2017, 7:36 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
We need conservatives. We need liberals. We don't need racism.

Woodrow Wilson, an idealist sort of liberal, was a racist.


I think perhaps anyone who makes race an issue is racist.



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22 Jun 2017, 8:46 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
As for when will it end? When there are no longer any humans.

An unintentionally-accurate answer, for how a Maoist struggle session ends.



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22 Jun 2017, 8:50 am

It's an issue because it still exists. Anybody who doesn't believe racism exists is BLIND and DELUSIONAL. It stares you in the face.

Saying this, I don't believe in things like "affirmative action."

You even have racist liberals. And socially-liberal conservatives.

I've had bad encounters with liberals, good encounters with conservatives.



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22 Jun 2017, 9:08 am

I don't see the surrealism, in having a white conservative, in favor of other white conservatives.

I find it strange, having a conservative Raelian or bronie. Being "out" and conservative is the contradiction.

In the Christian tradition, spokespeople are supposed to be irreproachable. Open homosexuality is a reproach to conservatism, if not liberalism. Trump ,Talbert, and the snowflakes all know this is an incursion, into a sort of safespace, actually, a sort of sexual violation. You are a party to it and don't want to be.



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22 Jun 2017, 11:59 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
It's an issue because it still exists. Anybody who doesn't believe racism exists is BLIND and DELUSIONAL. It stares you in the face.

Saying this, I don't believe in things like "affirmative action."

You even have racist liberals. And socially-liberal conservatives.

I've had bad encounters with liberals, good encounters with conservatives.


The question is how universally strong it is these days in governing western society.



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22 Jun 2017, 12:08 pm

It's not as strong as it used to be----but racism still has its impact. There isn't much "de jure" racism any more; but "de facto" racism still exists to a considerable extent, especially on the "grass roots" level.

"Minorities" have made great inroads since the 1960s--perhaps even more so in Europe than in the US. But racism still leaves its stamp---especially when it comes to where one lives.

In New York City, you have your "mixed" neighborhoods--but you also still have neighborhoods and schools which are still "enclaves" for people of one race or another, and who actively seek to keep out the other race.

If "the West" continues to lend credence to nationalists and reactionaries, and puts them at the seat of governments, racism will have more of an impact than it does at present.



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22 Jun 2017, 12:14 pm

Racism is a "learned trait." I've never known a racist under the age of about three years.

Without input from parents and others, children are "colorblind."