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DemonAbyss
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11 Aug 2017, 10:30 am

The problem I see with accurate portrayals is that Neurotypicals, being the majority, need to relate to the character in question. Because of this, things will inevitably be watered down and inaccurate to appeal to the lowest common denominator (and no offense meant by that if some NT takes offense to it.) in order for a series to do well.



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12 Aug 2017, 1:29 pm

I am currently watching episode 6 and the series basically makes fun of Sam's directness, naivety and other social difficulties. I really hope this changes in future episodes.

Netflix, ABC Portrayals Of Autism Still Fall Short, Critics Say
http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shot ... ritics-say


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15 Aug 2017, 9:37 am

Hmm can't say I've actually seen a show with a positive autism representation. Then again its hard to say because every case is different. The only way to show the truth would be to do a documentary of sorts.



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15 Aug 2017, 4:56 pm

I just read an article online about this show and it said it portrayed Sam as a misogynist and things the article said about things he does in the show made him look like an as*hole and implying it's his autism that makes him do those things. The article was titled Atypical portrays autistic men as sexist pigs. Now I am curious about this show and I was going to watch it anyway after my Hulu free trial expires.


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15 Aug 2017, 5:38 pm

I hate these shows, sanitised voyeurism for entertainment of NT's. Its a bit like going to the zoo,


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16 Aug 2017, 5:15 am

League_Girl wrote:
I just read an article online about this show and it said it portrayed Sam as a misogynist and things the article said about things he does in the show made him look like an as*hole and implying it's his autism that makes him do those things. The article was titled Atypical portrays autistic men as sexist pigs. Now I am curious about this show and I was going to watch it anyway after my Hulu free trial expires.


This one ?: https://qz.com/1053590/the-new-netflix- ... ist-jerks/

[spoiler]
I did like the idea of a silent disco at the end of the show, but not the happy ending in semi-public.


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16 Aug 2017, 3:25 pm

ErwinNL wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
I just read an article online about this show and it said it portrayed Sam as a misogynist and things the article said about things he does in the show made him look like an as*hole and implying it's his autism that makes him do those things. The article was titled Atypical portrays autistic men as sexist pigs. Now I am curious about this show and I was going to watch it anyway after my Hulu free trial expires.


This one ?: https://qz.com/1053590/the-new-netflix- ... ist-jerks/

[spoiler]
I did like the idea of a silent disco at the end of the show, but not the happy ending in semi-public.


Some of the guys here who like to make generalizations about women should read that and spend some time pondering it.



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18 Aug 2017, 4:56 am

I watched the first episode last night. I had mixed feelings. It was entertaining enough that I'll probably watch the whole series, mostly because I want to see more about the kid's penguin/Antarctica special interest. :lol: My overall thoughts on the ASD portrayal was that there were a lot of things that felt incongruous. Sam seemed like his social deficits were quite severe, and yet he goes to a mainstream school and holds down an after-school job? Since they focused mostly on the social deficits, I didn't connect with the character. I can "pass" as "quirky but normal" as far as social deficits go, so to relate to an ASD character, the portrayal has to go beyond that, which I don't feel this show masters. The only thing that even reminded me of myself was when Sam randomly started spitting out penguin/Antarctica facts to his family, and they just seemed so bored. :lol:

The part I got the biggest kick out of, though? In the one scene, Sam's therapist was giving some lecture on ASDs. I paused it to see what her PowerPoint slide said, and the one part said: "Autism's AFFECT on the brain." I was stunned. This pretty much says it all, how they clearly are not having people on the spectrum help produce the show or review it. If that were the case, they wouldn't have had a glaring grammatical error splashed across the screen. :roll:



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18 Aug 2017, 8:34 am

If they had autistics reviewing it they likelynwould not have described autism as some outside entity that effected then brain.


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Yesterday, 7:30 am

Watched the show, felt a little uncomfortable knowing that the stereotypes exist for a reason. I and many of you may act like him in real life (to a smaller degree though) and we just don't know it. It makes me shudder.

Can't relate to Sam wanting a girlfriend. I am too much of a pessimistic misanthrope who only cares about surviving and putting off suicidal thoughts to feel any romantic warmth!



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Yesterday, 7:31 am

Hypercoaster wrote:
I watched the first episode last night. I had mixed feelings. It was entertaining enough that I'll probably watch the whole series, mostly because I want to see more about the kid's penguin/Antarctica special interest. :lol: My overall thoughts on the ASD portrayal was that there were a lot of things that felt incongruous. Sam seemed like his social deficits were quite severe, and yet he goes to a mainstream school and holds down an after-school job? Since they focused mostly on the social deficits, I didn't connect with the character. I can "pass" as "quirky but normal" as far as social deficits go, so to relate to an ASD character, the portrayal has to go beyond that, which I don't feel this show masters. The only thing that even reminded me of myself was when Sam randomly started spitting out penguin/Antarctica facts to his family, and they just seemed so bored. :lol:

The part I got the biggest kick out of, though? In the one scene, Sam's therapist was giving some lecture on ASDs. I paused it to see what her PowerPoint slide said, and the one part said: "Autism's AFFECT on the brain." I was stunned. This pretty much says it all, how they clearly are not having people on the spectrum help produce the show or review it. If that were the case, they wouldn't have had a glaring grammatical error splashed across the screen. :roll:


Identity politics alert! I suppose OCD and schizophrenics are misguided when they prefer person first language? Science supports autism having a neuropathology, it's not just how the brain is shaped, there are mechanisms.