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18 Jul 2017, 11:25 pm

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they would act the same toward space aliens if space aliens ever landed--but at least they could tell the space aliens apart.

I always thought that it's hilarious that 99.9% aliens from science fiction are so much similar to a "neurotypical human". I mean, in their behavior. More than we autists :?.


I don't normaly come in here , but just wanted to read what the Troll was dishing out.

It's funny that you think science fiction aliens are similar to NT humans , I see them being similar to the media stereotype Aspie ( e.g. logical , no empathy , misunderstanding social rules )


I am pretty sure there are lots and lots of different types of science fiction aliens....that certainly does not describe them all. I mean just star trek alone has various different aliens some certainly have more empathy, aren't so logical and all of them misunderstand each others social rules more or less as they have different cultures and such.


I did reply to you earlier but something must have happened. I am only basing my opinion on my limited knowledge of ASD and the way I remember how I felt about alien characters


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18 Jul 2017, 11:30 pm

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Nah my sci-fi extends past Star Trek but if we stay with it and off the top of my head the characters I identified with were 7 of 9 , Odo , Worf and Data ( I know he's not technically an alien )

I have no idea who those guys are, didn't really watch Startrek. But I can easily name quite a few aliens who are very human-like in behavior despite being completely alien in appearance: Yoda, E.T., Wall-E, etc, etc.
Hell, even the Predator - he behaves in the same way as many people do, and he even laughs. :D



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19 Jul 2017, 4:50 am

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Nah my sci-fi extends past Star Trek but if we stay with it and off the top of my head the characters I identified with were 7 of 9 , Odo , Worf and Data ( I know he's not technically an alien )

I have no idea who those guys are, didn't really watch Startrek. But I can easily name quite a few aliens who are very human-like in behavior despite being completely alien in appearance: Yoda, E.T., Wall-E, etc, etc.
Hell, even the Predator - he behaves in the same way as many people do, and he even laughs. :D


Maybe I cherry pick or focus in on one thing.

Yoda - Strange prosody he doth have
Wall-E - Mutism
E.T. - Echolalia - "E.T E.T E.T E.T. E.T"
Predator - Echolalia "Over here"


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19 Jul 2017, 10:29 am

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Yoda - Strange prosody he doth have
Wall-E - Mutism
E.T. - Echolalia - "E.T E.T E.T E.T. E.T"
Predator - Echolalia "Over here"

Well, they are aliens after all. But their behavior in other aspects is perfectly NT.



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19 Jul 2017, 11:27 am

XenoMind wrote:
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Yoda - Strange prosody he doth have
Wall-E - Mutism
E.T. - Echolalia - "E.T E.T E.T E.T. E.T"
Predator - Echolalia "Over here"

Well, they are aliens after all. But their behavior in other aspects is perfectly NT.


I'll have to agree with you for now until I watch those films again and do a proper armchair diagnosis of them


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20 Jul 2017, 6:30 pm

But we already have rights?



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21 Jul 2017, 10:56 am

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But we already have rights?

Theoretically.



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25 Jul 2017, 8:28 am

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But we already have rights?

The condition of the people with Spectrum is like the condition of African Americans after the civil war. Sure we have "rights" but that's not enough. When you have a society of hypocrite bigots who will judge you for being autistic then "rights" are useless. The entire mindset of NT on people with Autism Spectrum or non NT must change.



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31 Jul 2017, 10:15 am

Hi, Grammar Geek.

Maybe you are a Disability Rights Activist.

https://www.adl.org/education/resources ... s-movement



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31 Jul 2017, 11:34 am

August wrote:
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But we already have rights?

The condition of the people with Spectrum is like the condition of African Americans after the civil war. Sure we have "rights" but that's not enough. When you have a society of hypocrite bigots who will judge you for being autistic then "rights" are useless. The entire mindset of NT on people with Autism Spectrum or non NT must change.

Get a grip. On a history book. No one is lynching aspies. There are no special laws enforced against us.

I find your comparison disgusting.


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31 Jul 2017, 3:07 pm

jrjones9933 wrote:
August wrote:
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But we already have rights?

The condition of the people with Spectrum is like the condition of African Americans after the civil war. Sure we have "rights" but that's not enough. When you have a society of hypocrite bigots who will judge you for being autistic then "rights" are useless. The entire mindset of NT on people with Autism Spectrum or non NT must change.

Get a grip. On a history book. No one is lynching aspies. There are no special laws enforced against us.

I find your comparison disgusting.


There is individual acts of violence against autistics and filicide against us too often excused. But unlike after civil war against blacks, there is no organized violence supported by governments.

The First KKK
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The Klan primarily performed heinous crimes against African Americans, especially those running for office in the South. In addition, many white Republicans and sympathizers were also targets of Klan violence. It is estimated that the KKK performed over 3500 racially-motivated lynchings in the South between 1865 and 1900. Furthermore, white Republicans who sympathized with African Americans, decried as “carpetbaggers” and “scalawags,” were frequently attacked.
Democrats relied on the Klan to secure election victories, as Klansmen oftentimes threatened or killed competing Republican candidates. Many southern Republicans actually abandoned their campaigns due to the inability to hold meetings and attract voters while living in constant fear.


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04 Aug 2017, 5:06 pm

jrjones9933 wrote:
No one is lynching aspies.

Wrong. There is a lot of violence against us.
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There are no special laws enforced against us.

Wrong. For instance, Canada's immigration law bans immigration of autists and their family members.



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04 Aug 2017, 9:42 pm

Wow, I was unaware of the immigration laws. I had to look that up. That just makes me even angrier.



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10 Aug 2017, 8:31 am

Does anyone know of any good disability rights organisations on this issue? I'm an autistic living in Melbourne. I'd like to volunteer for activism, but I don't know where to find it.



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11 Aug 2017, 8:56 pm

Canada does not ban aspies. They don't want any immigrants with excessively expensive medical conditions. It's not ASD discrimination.

Individual acts of violence don't compare to the terrorism practiced by the KKK. Lose the hysteria.


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11 Aug 2017, 9:47 pm

jrjones9933 wrote:
August wrote:
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But we already have rights?

The condition of the people with Spectrum is like the condition of African Americans after the civil war. Sure we have "rights" but that's not enough. When you have a society of hypocrite bigots who will judge you for being autistic then "rights" are useless. The entire mindset of NT on people with Autism Spectrum or non NT must change.

Get a grip. On a history book. No one is lynching aspies. There are no special laws enforced against us.

I find your comparison disgusting.


I think you are just ass hurt and being whiny no one is giving in to your white guilt and SJW mentality. If you were hoping I'd start thinking like you, too f*****g bad.

Conservatives think I am a "ret*d" and I have "hamburger syndrome" (I've actually been called this) and "assburgers" while liberals think I am a redneck despite how I hate them just as much as SJWs.