Before You Look for Work Here Are Four Things You Should Absolutely Know

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28 Jun 2017, 3:10 pm


Our team used to hate conversations like the one below. We really did.

“That’s really incredible,” said a well-meaning educator who had called in April about our Autism Advantage program, which runs six-week training cohorts for autistic individuals around specific talent sets. “I’m searching for a program which can teach autistic people acceptable behavior for the workplace. Yours is like that, correct?”

We now love conversations like these. They give us an opportunity to explain what we’ve helped dozens of leading companies understand. Our Autism Advantage program doesn’t make autistic people ‘acceptable’. We bring out and strengthen their talents to improve their ...



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29 Jun 2017, 12:50 pm

thanks <3



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30 Jun 2017, 2:27 pm

Thanks so much for this! You're a big help :D



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08 Jul 2017, 9:27 pm

Unfortunately, most of us don't live in 'Silicon Valley', and therefore can't take advantage of this. Also, this article is full of lazy generalisations about people who have autism/A.S. (ex. yet again we are informed that we generally prefer, and thrive in, high-tech careers/occupations/environments, when in fact there are those of us who are pretty clueless when it comes to how computers work - like me).

Never mind, it's a good start to something that needs to be done, and hopefully programmes like this will catch on globally.



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09 Jul 2017, 12:12 am

Here's what I've observed about going on job interviews.
There's a very important question that determines
where you are in the social structure
according to how you answer:
"Would you like some coffee?"

Here's the answers and how they rate on the NT point system:

1) Yes, thanks, with cream and sugar.
NT meaning: You're normal and a pleasant person to work with. 5 points.

2) Black, please.
NT meaning: You're high energy, still within the normal range. 5 points.

3) Decaf, please.
NT meaning: Hmmm, has issues with real caffeine. 4 points.

4) No thanks, I prefer tea.
NT meaning: Has to be different, must be high-maintenance (unless you're in the UK). 3 points in the USA, 5 points for normalcy in the UK.

5) No thanks, I prefer water.
NT meaning: Ah, a health nut. Maybe even a Millennial. 2 points, unless the company is modern, at which point you can still earn 5 points.

6) No thanks, I'm not thirsty.
NT meaning: Anti-social, rejects an offer of hospitality, not a team player. 0 points.

Seriously, I've been to interviews and this actually matters.



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09 Jul 2017, 6:37 am

the_phoenix wrote:
Here's what I've observed about going on job interviews.
There's a very important question that determines
where you are in the social structure
according to how you answer:
"Would you like some coffee?"

Here's the answers and how they rate on the NT point system:

1) Yes, thanks, with cream and sugar.
NT meaning: You're normal and a pleasant person to work with. 5 points.

2) Black, please.
NT meaning: You're high energy, still within the normal range. 5 points.

3) Decaf, please.
NT meaning: Hmmm, has issues with real caffeine. 4 points.

4) No thanks, I prefer tea.
NT meaning: Has to be different, must be high-maintenance (unless you're in the UK). 3 points in the USA, 5 points for normalcy in the UK.

5) No thanks, I prefer water.
NT meaning: Ah, a health nut. Maybe even a Millennial. 2 points, unless the company is modern, at which point you can still earn 5 points.

6) No thanks, I'm not thirsty.
NT meaning: Anti-social, rejects an offer of hospitality, not a team player. 0 points.

Seriously, I've been to interviews and this actually matters.


This just seems alien to me , I have a hard time grasping that this happens.

I've never had a job interview in America so it might be a culture thing. I would definitely decline a drink due to perceiving it as politeness and trying to act professional in an interview. I think bringing a drink into the mix makes the interview less formal.
I don't think I have ever been to a formal interview where the interviewer had a drink ( maybe a decanter of water and glasses on the desk for emergency ). Then again I've never had a job interview for a big company ( I've worked for big companies but usually fallen into the job with no interview at all )



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09 Jul 2017, 9:48 am

SaveFerris wrote:
This just seems alien to me , I have a hard time grasping that this happens.

I've never had a job interview in America so it might be a culture thing. I would definitely decline a drink due to perceiving it as politeness and trying to act professional in an interview. I think bringing a drink into the mix makes the interview less formal.
I don't think I have ever been to a formal interview where the interviewer had a drink ( maybe a decanter of water and glasses on the desk for emergency ). Then again I've never had a job interview for a big company ( I've worked for big companies but usually fallen into the job with no interview at all )


Maybe it is American culture ... I was just assuming that people in the UK would automatically ask if you wanted tea at a job interview.

I used to think like you that declining a drink was the polite thing to do ... But have since learned how important the offering and accepting of hospitality is to bonding ... it's about respecting and acknowledging the host's good manners, and being agreeable to fulfill your role as a guest willing to play your part in the social dance and accept someone else's generosity. If you refuse the coffee, you're rejecting the host. Yes, it sounds silly, but apparently that's how NTs operate.

And on the other hand, there was one job interview I attended where they didn't offer me anything to drink at all. I was very thirsty so I politely asked for water. Got the job, but it didn't last long. Lesson learned there: If an American company does not offer you a drink during an interview, watch out because that company is likely not doing well financially, and you will soon be looking for a new job.

As for you landing jobs without having to go through the torture of an interview? Lucky you! :)



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09 Jul 2017, 11:00 am

the_phoenix wrote:

Maybe it is American culture ... I was just assuming that people in the UK would automatically ask if you wanted tea at a job interview.

I'm only going on my experiences , so it could even be the type of job or the importance of the job that makes a difference :roll:

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I used to think like you that declining a drink was the polite thing to do ... But have since learned how important the offering and accepting of hospitality is to bonding ... it's about respecting and acknowledging the host's good manners, and being agreeable to fulfill your role as a guest willing to play your part in the social dance and accept someone else's generosity. If you refuse the coffee, you're rejecting the host. Yes, it sounds silly, but apparently that's how NTs operate.


It does sound like cultural difference , a bit like in Japan if as a guest you eat all the food put in front of you it's a sign that you were not given enough food ( I learnt that from a bank advert so don't even know if its true )

the_phoenix wrote:
And on the other hand, there was one job interview I attended where they didn't offer me anything to drink at all. I was very thirsty so I politely asked for water. Got the job, but it didn't last long. Lesson learned there: If an American company does not offer you a drink during an interview, watch out because that company is likely not doing well financially, and you will soon be looking for a new job.


I'll bare that in mind if I ever interview for an American company ( very unlikely to happen though)

the_phoenix wrote:
As for you landing jobs without having to go through the torture of an interview? Lucky you! :)

I know , I've had more jobs than successful interviews - I just wish I was able to hang on to them :lol:



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11 Jul 2017, 1:37 pm

Hi John, very good idea i truly hope it catch's on globally. More support is needed for autism, ive a friend in a wheel chair who gets more respect. My own experiences have taught me generally people in society still frown upon autism. Im of the belief that our brains are physically wired differently, it is a disability of sorts but one in that we think very differently about problems and life which can be quite an advantage at times. Ive often said to friends 'If the worlds transport networks were run by people with autism they would run like clockwork and almost never break down'.