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04 Jul 2017, 3:39 pm

I am a Christian, I do believe in evolution, and I am certain that Ken Ham is a carnival barker out to line his pockets.

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04 Jul 2017, 6:25 pm

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Talk about no more tears, quite honestly those who go on and on the most about god, the bible and christianity by far are atheists. Ususally butthurt atheists at that. "They made me go to sunday school whaaaaa".

Kinda like how those who whine about socialism "cultural Marxism" are all butthurt right-wingers. Butthurt snowflakes are everywhere. :wink:

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04 Jul 2017, 6:49 pm

funeralxempire wrote:

EzraS wrote:

Kinda like how those who whine about socialism "cultural Marxism" are all butthurt right-wingers. Butthurt snowflakes are everywhere. :wink:

Red-baiting is almost as cheap as the Hitler card. :lol:

Just mention the Soviet Union! Everyone is suddenly driven into an emotional frenzy and logic breaks down!

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04 Jul 2017, 8:03 pm

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A) The fact that many atheist know scripture better than do many of the faithful IS rather ironic.

It's not just knowing about it. It seems their primary interest and what they talk about the most. A lot different from an expert in greek/roman mythology for instance.

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B) But atheism vs religion is not the issue in this thread. Its one man's particular interpretation of religion, and how it is presented at his museum that is the issue. The last five popes, and Pat Robertson, have all embraced geologic gradualism, and an old age for the Earth, and the nondenial of evolution. Ken Ham is as much at odds with them as he is with militant atheists, if not more so.

Well the video in the op is by a well known youtube atheist. And one man's interpretation? Isn't it actually the mainstream traditional interpretation? Do protestants care what popes think and isn't pat roberson just a shady televangelist? What about the rest of the well known preachers along with apologists, bible scholars and theologians?

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You seem rather obsessed with how atheists are supposedly obsessed with religion. Would that be something you would also find to be "ironic"?

How do I appear obsessed? Have I posted any threads about it? I'm just mentioning an observation I've made.

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And um...no. Ken Ham is a Fundamentalist and a Biblical literalists. Those terms were coined over 100 years ago because Biblical literalism and Fundamentalism had already ceased to be mainstream back then.

His interpretation of the noah's ark story isn't the traditional one? What is the traditional story then?

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And I mention both Pat Robertson and the Popes to cover both the Protestants and Catholics.

Then why is pat robertson the only preacher you can name who doesn't believe the noah's ark story? And which popes have said they don't believe in the noah's ark story for that matter?

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04 Jul 2017, 8:07 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:

I am a Christian, I do believe in evolution, and I am certain that Ken Ham is a carnival barker out to line his pockets.

So what's the noah's ark story most christians believe in outside of the one ken ham teaches?

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05 Jul 2017, 12:09 am

EzraS wrote:

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I am a Christian, I do believe in evolution, and I am certain that Ken Ham is a carnival barker out to line his pockets.

So what's the noah's ark story most christians believe in outside of the one ken ham teaches?

You know it's the traditional story in the Bible. Whether it's taken literally or not is a different story.

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05 Jul 2017, 2:31 am

Kraichgauer wrote:

EzraS wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

I am a Christian, I do believe in evolution, and I am certain that Ken Ham is a carnival barker out to line his pockets.

So what's the noah's ark story most christians believe in outside of the one ken ham teaches?

You know it's the traditional story in the Bible. Whether it's taken literally or not is a different story.

I find the literally part interesting. It seems like using that clause allows anything the bible says to be passed off as some sort of allegory or metaphor.

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05 Jul 2017, 11:07 am

EzraS wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

EzraS wrote:

Kraichgauer wrote:

I am a Christian, I do believe in evolution, and I am certain that Ken Ham is a carnival barker out to line his pockets.

So what's the noah's ark story most christians believe in outside of the one ken ham teaches?

You know it's the traditional story in the Bible. Whether it's taken literally or not is a different story.

I find the literally part interesting. It seems like using that clause allows anything the bible says to be passed off as some sort of allegory or metaphor.

In certain cases, it obviously is metaphor.

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05 Jul 2017, 1:31 pm

There's the possibility that there was a very large flood circa 4,000 BC or so, that inundated a large area of what is now called "The Holy Land."

It seems to me, though, that the Noah's Ark story is allegorical, and perhaps the writers of the story assumed that the story wouldn't be taken literally.

It's true that there were relatively few species of land animal in that area, so that it is conceivable, from a space standpoint that "two of every animal," could be accommodated on the boat.

However, if all these animals interacted with each other within the confines of the boat, that riots would break out, thereby destroying the boat.

I just wouldn't take the Noah's Ark story literally, just like I wouldn't take the accounts of people who lived 500 or more years literally.

I believe the whole thing is purely allegorical, and might not have been meant to be taken literally.

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06 Jul 2017, 12:15 am

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The flood myth was likely inspired by earlier Sumerian flood myths ... which were inspired by real historical events.

At one point, the Tigris and Euphrates rivers did flood. This did not flood the whole world ... but the people who lived in the region probably felt as though the entire world was underwater. That's what happens when your personal home floods.

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06 Jul 2017, 1:59 am

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The land between the Tigris and Euphrates was the world to the people living there.

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06 Jul 2017, 2:47 am

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The guy in the video is making fun of entrepreneurship.

He points out business failures , and laughs at them.

His name is probably "Jack" .... as in .... "never done Jack".

"He'll laugh at others' failures, though, he has not done sh*t"

Utter nonsense. The video reporter is doing nothing of the sort. He is not laughing at "entrepreneurship". He is just reporting on a business, that just happens to be struggling. And reporting on the content of the exhibits at the said business (its not the reporter's fault that that content often looks laughable).

As someone above said "your butt hurt is showing".

My question is this: why do have butthurt? Why are you so emotionally invested in defending a Creationist museum when you tell us all over and over again that you are "an atheist"?

Did you even watch the video??

Go to time 0:22.

He laughs at multiple failed business ideas.

I actually looked up those other products, especially, the "self-filling cup".

Ham say his business is not failing.

He created 2000+ jobs, and provides a 75 cent tax per ticket to the city.

I would say Ham is like Walt Disney who people thought was nuts also.

This is basic comprehension not "butt hurt".

You would of laughed at Walt Disney too, right ?

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06 Jul 2017, 2:57 am

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I actually looked up those other products, especially, the "self-filling cup".

If anyone is interested ...

Here is the self-filling cup mentioned in the video ... it uses condensation to refill ...
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/font ... -camping#/

It's not clear why "Jack" labeled it "BUSTED" in the video.

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06 Jul 2017, 3:33 am

LoveNotHate wrote:

naturalplastic wrote:

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Thats just it.

He IS competing with Walt Disney, but he pretends to be competing with the Smithsonian.

He is trafficking in fantasy, but pretends to be educating the public by claiming to present real history, and real science.

But apparently this video is part of series of videos that the producer made that "bust" products. Its the products he is busting, not the practice of entrepreneurship.

Whats not to laugh at?

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11 Jul 2017, 9:32 am

More Proof that Creationism is Filth

Me: Speciation has been observed in nature.
Creationist: Those animals are still the same kind of animal.

"Kind" is an unscientific term. It is meaningless when you think about it.

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11 Jul 2017, 10:16 pm

What Every Creationist Must Deny

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