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20 Jul 2017, 8:31 pm

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Climate change is a more a accurate description than global warming.
Follow the science.
https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/


I believe the rebuttal to that is it's based on models. That the way it's been determined what carbon dioxide levels have been over the last 400,000 years is guesswork based on models designed by them to provide the data they want. How much are we supposed to trust the agency that faked moon landings?

Here's an interesting article: http://www.dailywire.com/news/9767/9-th ... n-bandler#

https://www.skepticalscience.com/global ... ediate.htm


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20 Jul 2017, 8:40 pm

Come on, folks....don't you want a cleaner Earth?

I grew up in New York City during the 1960s and 1970s. People couldn't swim the Hudson River, nor fish in it. Now, people can do both. That's saying something.

In about 1969, Lake Erie actually BURNED because of pollution.

I don't think this "climate change" thing is politically-oriented.



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20 Jul 2017, 8:56 pm

Misslizard wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Climate change is a more a accurate description than global warming.
Follow the science.
https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/


I believe the rebuttal to that is it's based on models. That the way it's been determined what carbon dioxide levels have been over the last 400,000 years is guesswork based on models designed by them to provide the data they want. How much are we supposed to trust the agency that faked moon landings?

Here's an interesting article: http://www.dailywire.com/news/9767/9-th ... n-bandler#

https://www.skepticalscience.com/global ... ediate.htm


What 97% of "climate change science" scientists agree according to climate change science websites? Kinda reminds me of the claim that 4 out of 5 dentists recommend chewing Trident gum.



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20 Jul 2017, 9:03 pm

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What 97% of "climate change science" scientists agree according to climate change science websites? Kinda reminds me of the claim that 4 out of 5 dentists recommend chewing Trident gum.


Seriously? This is a new low.

You don't know the difference between an advertising hook and a piece of peer-reviewed scientific literature?
That explains a lot.


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20 Jul 2017, 9:09 pm

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Come on, folks....don't you want a cleaner Earth?

I grew up in New York City during the 1960s and 1970s. People couldn't swim the Hudson River, nor fish in it. Now, people can do both. That's saying something.

In about 1969, Lake Erie actually BURNED because of pollution.

I don't think this "climate change" thing is politically-oriented.


The country is getting cleaner no matter what as a natural result of progress. Where I live used to be called the City of Smokestacks. There's not a single smokestack left these days. Which sucks because old smokestacks are cool looking. But that was just a result of progress rather than due to climate change worries. Electric cars that drive themselves are the wave of the future, not full lead gas burning V8 50's style Oldsmobiles.



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20 Jul 2017, 9:11 pm

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Animal species have always been going extinct, whilst many new species are discovered yearly.


The extinction rate is much higher than it used to be.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction

Additionally, many coastal cities are at risk thanks to climate change.


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20 Jul 2017, 9:33 pm

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Animal species have always been going extinct, whilst many new species are discovered yearly.


The extinction rate is much higher than it used to be.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction

Additionally, many coastal cities are at risk thanks to climate change.


Or it could be that extinction rates are just being kept track of more as time progresses. For instance scientists estimate we have discovered less than 10 per cent of the species on our planet. As they discover more, that doesn't mean that more are coming into existence or more are becoming extinct. It just means they're keeping greater track of species. But they are still just scratching the surface.

Coastal cities are at risk according to climate change science prediction models. Computer models can me designed to say whatever the designers want them too.



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20 Jul 2017, 9:45 pm

EzraS wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Climate change is a more a accurate description than global warming.
Follow the science.
https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/


I believe the rebuttal to that is it's based on models. That the way it's been determined what carbon dioxide levels have been over the last 400,000 years is guesswork based on models designed by them to provide the data they want. How much are we supposed to trust the agency that faked moon landings?

Here's an interesting article: http://www.dailywire.com/news/9767/9-th ... n-bandler#

https://www.skepticalscience.com/global ... ediate.htm


What 97% of "climate change science" scientists agree according to climate change science websites? Kinda reminds me of the claim that 4 out of 5 dentists recommend chewing Trident gum.

You don't read the whole articles do you?If you did,you would have noticed that it was indorseddo by more than climate scientists.Look at the sources.
Do you want a heart specialist or a GP if you need open heart surgery?You'd go with a a specialist if you were smart.
You ate the blue pill little ostrich. :P


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20 Jul 2017, 9:53 pm

EzraS wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Come on, folks....don't you want a cleaner Earth?

I grew up in New York City during the 1960s and 1970s. People couldn't swim the Hudson River, nor fish in it. Now, people can do both. That's saying something.

In about 1969, Lake Erie actually BURNED because of pollution.

I don't think this "climate change" thing is politically-oriented.


The country is getting cleaner no matter what as a natural result of progress. Where I live used to be called the City of Smokestacks. There's not a single smokestack left these days. Which sucks because old smokestacks are cool looking. But that was just a result of progress rather than due to climate change worries. Electric cars that drive themselves are the wave of the future, not full lead gas burning V8 50's style Oldsmobiles.

That progress was because people complained about the pollution,not becuse factory owners cared.
Those electric cars run on coal.Not a clean as you think.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/el ... b77d2e0805


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20 Jul 2017, 9:58 pm

EzraS wrote:
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Animal species have always been going extinct, whilst many new species are discovered yearly.


The extinction rate is much higher than it used to be.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction

Additionally, many coastal cities are at risk thanks to climate change.


Or it could be that extinction rates are just being kept track of more as time progresses. For instance scientists estimate we have discovered less than 10 per cent of the species on our planet. As they discover more, that doesn't mean that more are coming into existence or more are becoming extinct. It just means they're keeping greater track of species. But they are still just scratching the surface.

Coastal cities are at risk according to climate change science prediction models. Computer models can me designed to say whatever the designers want them too.

No,amphibians are going extinct.All China's turtles are extinct (except for a few zoo specimens they are desperately trying to breed)China Girl is one of the last Yangtze River turtles alive.They ate them into extinction or destroyed their habitat.


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20 Jul 2017, 9:58 pm

Misslizard wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Climate change is a more a accurate description than global warming.
Follow the science.
https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/


I believe the rebuttal to that is it's based on models. That the way it's been determined what carbon dioxide levels have been over the last 400,000 years is guesswork based on models designed by them to provide the data they want. How much are we supposed to trust the agency that faked moon landings?

Here's an interesting article: http://www.dailywire.com/news/9767/9-th ... n-bandler#

https://www.skepticalscience.com/global ... ediate.htm


What 97% of "climate change science" scientists agree according to climate change science websites? Kinda reminds me of the claim that 4 out of 5 dentists recommend chewing Trident gum.

You don't read the whole articles do you?If you did,you would have noticed that it was indorseddo by more than climate scientists.Look at the sources.
Do you want a heart specialist or a GP if you need open heart surgery?You'd go with a a specialist if you were smart.
You ate the blue pill little ostrich. :P


The red and blue pill is a product of science fiction about artificial computer generated reality. You're the one believing what climate change science internet sites and and their computer models are telling you. Obviously whoever came up with that analogy didn't see the irony. Maybe they should switch to something like calling people not adhering to their system of thinking climatechangeophobes.



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20 Jul 2017, 10:03 pm

Misslizard wrote:
EzraS wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Animal species have always been going extinct, whilst many new species are discovered yearly.


The extinction rate is much higher than it used to be.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction

Additionally, many coastal cities are at risk thanks to climate change.


Or it could be that extinction rates are just being kept track of more as time progresses. For instance scientists estimate we have discovered less than 10 per cent of the species on our planet. As they discover more, that doesn't mean that more are coming into existence or more are becoming extinct. It just means they're keeping greater track of species. But they are still just scratching the surface.

Coastal cities are at risk according to climate change science prediction models. Computer models can me designed to say whatever the designers want them too.

No,amphibians are going extinct.All China's turtles are extinct (except for a few zoo specimens they are desperately trying to breed)China Girl is one of the last Yangtze River turtles alive.They ate them into extinction or destroyed their habitat.


The at risk part is based on computer model predictions of sea levels rising, not the popularity of turtle soup in China.



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20 Jul 2017, 10:05 pm

EzraS wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
Climate change is a more a accurate description than global warming.
Follow the science.
https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/


I believe the rebuttal to that is it's based on models. That the way it's been determined what carbon dioxide levels have been over the last 400,000 years is guesswork based on models designed by them to provide the data they want. How much are we supposed to trust the agency that faked moon landings?

Here's an interesting article: http://www.dailywire.com/news/9767/9-th ... n-bandler#

https://www.skepticalscience.com/global ... ediate.htm


What 97% of "climate change science" scientists agree according to climate change science websites? Kinda reminds me of the claim that 4 out of 5 dentists recommend chewing Trident gum.

You don't read the whole articles do you?If you did,you would have noticed that it was indorseddo by more than climate scientists.Look at the sources.
Do you want a heart specialist or a GP if you need open heart surgery?You'd go with a a specialist if you were smart.
You ate the blue pill little ostrich. :P


The red and blue pill is a product of science fiction about artificial computer generated reality. You're the one believing what climate change science internet sites and and they're computer models are telling you. Obviously whoever came up with that analogy didn't see the irony. Maybe they should switch to something like calling people not adhering to their system of thinking climatechangeophobes.

I've seen the movie.And you beleive the few deniers out there.
I beleive the scientists and the data,not a climate change Internet site.


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20 Jul 2017, 10:08 pm

EzraS wrote:
Misslizard wrote:
EzraS wrote:
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Animal species have always been going extinct, whilst many new species are discovered yearly.


The extinction rate is much higher than it used to be.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocene_extinction

Additionally, many coastal cities are at risk thanks to climate change.


Or it could be that extinction rates are just being kept track of more as time progresses. For instance scientists estimate we have discovered less than 10 per cent of the species on our planet. As they discover more, that doesn't mean that more are coming into existence or more are becoming extinct. It just means they're keeping greater track of species. But they are still just scratching the surface.

Coastal cities are at risk according to climate change science prediction models. Computer models can me designed to say whatever the designers want them too.

No,amphibians are going extinct.All China's turtles are extinct (except for a few zoo specimens they are desperately trying to breed)China Girl is one of the last Yangtze River turtles alive.They ate them into extinction or destroyed their habitat.


The at risk part is based on computer model predictions of sea levels rising, not the popularity of turtle soup in China.

I was not referring to rise in sea levels.Want me to start?
It was in reference to the current mass extinction.You're trying too hard. :P


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20 Jul 2017, 10:21 pm

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I've seen the movie.And you beleive the few deniers out there.
I beleive the scientists and the data,not a climate change Internet site.


The few were the ones who knew the Matrix to be a lie. In a Matrix analogy, being in the majority is what you want to avoid. Where did you get scientists data outside of what biased internet and media has told you? You only think you took the red pill because that's what they want you to believe.



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20 Jul 2017, 10:23 pm

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So the earth has undergone dramatic climate changes over the millennia that have had absolutely nothing to do with man made emissions.


Those changes in the past were gradual, the measured changes in the last 100 years have been relatively dramatic