England's First Gay Muslim Wedding

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People dispute the muslim-ness of it online, of course. I wonder how being gay and Muslim affected the behavior of the trolls.

The ceremony appeared did not take place in a mosque. One man's parents did not attend due to the prevailing views of their Bangladeshi community, who the article claims believe homosexuality is a phase, a disorder, or contrary to Islam.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/h ... 36936.html

http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/13/couple-ma ... s-6776352/


I predict that this will become normalized, because it's normal.

It won't change the rednecks minds because they think anyone who is non-Christian is automatically "kaweer".

I didn't even know there were redneck Muslims.

My message was aimed at Bible Belt rednecks who hate everyone except themselves (Rednecks generally call anyone they don't like "kaweer" regardless of their sexual orientation) but I completely forgot about Turning Muslim in Texas. Thanks for the reminder!

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I hope they are very happy (doesn't everyone deserve to be) and don't have to put up with any sh*t from narrow-minded individuals.

It seems like most of the flack they are getting are from Twitter trolls who would be too scared to do it in person.

Redneck typically refers to the rural poor people who hold traditional and often bigoted beliefs. They exist in most places, in some form or fashion. Frequently, in any society, such people produce most of the food.

We can't just cut them off or shun them. Mocking them seems to backfire. However, tolerating racism, sexism and homophobia won't work either.

Please don't lump ALL rednecks, together (I come from a lonnnnng line of rednecks)----please qualify your statements with "some", or "a few", or even "alot"----but, as you should know "redneck" ONLY means "Southerner", as the name came-about regarding people who bent-over to pick cotton, all-day, and thus the back of their neck got red, from the sun.

If my Bible-thumpin' sister can accept all of our gay relatives, the same as I and the rest of my family have, then there's hope for EVERYBODY.

That seems like the most effective method to change hearts and minds, so far. I don't feel comfortable asking gay people to come out to their hostile families, but those families very often become less hostile to gay people in general when they learn to accept a relative first. It seems to work, but I think as a society we can just try to support people who decide for themselves to come out, rather than making it an obligation due to it's effectiveness.

The couple would be wise to keep a low profile. Consistently appearing on TV would be "rubbing their decision in the muslim communities faces". Somebody is going to take this as a matter of "honour" and it may end unpleasantly.

Good luck to the couple though, they have managed to get both the rednecks and fundementalist muslims angry so good on them...

Well, I don't think everyone from the South is a stereotypical redneck; I am from the South myself! My uncle was a farmer but he was very intelligent.

I moved away from redneck regions, sort of, but I don't deny the good parts of my redneck roots. I enjoy hard, dirty jobs on some level, and I'll try to fix anything, mostly half-assed but I'll really try. I prefer plain talk where appropriate.

I think we need to accept that rural folk are mostly genuine and hard working people who are more likely to help you if you are in trouble or stranded somewhere. In this respect they have better qualities than many urban snobs.

Unfortunately isolation means they are open to indoctrination by bigoted local politicians and religious leaders who play on their lack of exposure to sociodemographic changes in urban areas, easily manipulating them to fear gays and muslims

Non-liberal white equals redneck, white trash, white supremacist, racist, homophobic, xenophobic, islamophobic, so forth and so on.

Salaam... Y'all!

The South is a pretty big place, too. If you include the Southwest, and you kinda have to if you're talking rednecks, then vast swaths of the West Coast will also demand inclusion in redneck territory. I'll leave it to Jeff Foxworthy to generalize about rednecks. He's pretty inclusive, in that regard.

I've felt for a long time that discrimination against rednecks deserves more attention, and I've posted about it here and elsewhere. They present the main obstacle to my attempts to defend them from discrimination by eagerly passing that discrimination on down their perceived hierarchy. It's maddening.

Mark and Ezra should probably meet a broader variety of both rednecks and liberals in person before generalizing about their attitudes so grandiosely.