18 Jul 2017, 2:57 pm
kraftiekortie wrote:
I don't have muscles. I don't dress that great. I don't have a six-pack. I'm 5 foot 4 3/4, and weigh 180 lbs. I'm awkward, and I meow and growl in the streets. I also have gray hair, and look sort of old.
The only time when women have ever shown disdain for me was when I gave out a "desperate" vibe in my early 20s.
Women don't mind it if I flirt with them a little.
The only time when women have ever shown disdain for me was when I gave out a "desperate" vibe in my early 20s.
Women don't mind it if I flirt with them a little.
We can't all be casanovas like you kraftie.
18 Jul 2017, 10:23 pm
Closet Genious wrote:
Chronos wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Chronos wrote:
A gold digger is someone who marries only for money because their priority in life is the material. A woman concerned with finding a financially stable mate who can support a family is not necessarily a gold digger. It's a matter of practicality that a woman who wishes to live a traditionally female role as mother and care giver to her children and husband needs a husband who can fill the traditionally male role of provider for his family, much as it is a matter of practicality for a man who wished to have children to find a woman young enough to reproduce. In most situations, even women who want financially stable men, and men who want young women also place a lot of value in the character of the other person.
At times, gold digging is hidden behind this pretext though
So is wanting a younger woman. When I encountered men my age on dating sites and saw they would not date women our age, and asked why, they would inevitably talk about wanting children. But most men don't want more than 3 children and a woman my age can reasonably give a man 3 children without medical intervention. When I point this out, they cite an increased risk of birth defects such as Down's Syndrome, while it increases with maternal age is low to begin with. At my age, it's still less than 3%. In fact, the odds of other birth defects decrease with maternal age, but the odds of schizophrenia and autism (of all types) increase with paternal age such that sperm banks cap the age of male donors at around the same age as egg banks cap the age of female donors. If a woman just wants money and a man just wants youth, they should just say so, in my opinion.
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
, there's a fine line there..... for instance if for her the money is a lot more important than everything else in the man and would leave him in a tick at the very first financial hurdle, then YES, I consider this woman a subtle type of gold digger too. In real life, not all good diggers are the obvious hollywood type, the subtle ones are way more common.
/anyway enough about GD, let's go back to topic.
/anyway enough about GD, let's go back to topic.
Again the same goes for men who want youth and beauty. In the U.S. men leave wives who become disfigured or ill with a serious, prolonged illness at 6 times the rate that women leave husbands who become disfigured or ill, and women who have been scared or disfigured from breast cancer find that this causes most men to reject them.
It would be nice if these gold diggers and youth/beauty diggers couldn't hide their motives, but unfortunately such is not the nature of the world. But it's nothing to get upset about. I was reading 1001 Arabian Nights recently. The stories date back centuries and are filled with all the relationship and social injustices that we lament about on here today, and I imagine these facets of humanity will continue long after all of us here are gone as well.
I would love to see statistics on how many men and women leave their partners, if they lose their job/money.
But you know what chronos, I completely agree with you. These things will NEVER change, unless we re-engineer the human genome or something. It is what it is.
When a man becomes unemployed the chance of divorce increases, and this is not mirrored when a woman becomes unemployed. I do not know the exact rate though. Also, I suspect that many of the divorces that occur when a man becomes unemployed might be due in part to his response to this rather than the actual economic hardship. Over the years I've encountered gripes from wives of unemployed men and their complaints didn't revolve around the fact that he was no longer bringing in money but rather they complained that their husbands sit on the couch all day watching TV and playing video games and no longer bother looking for a job. No doubt the men are depressed and discouraged, and often when men feel they can no longer support their family, they push their family away because they think their family would be better off without them.
Also, I would add, the men who leave ill wives, it's not merely a case of the woman losing her looks. The men are more often running from a situation they can't fix and don't know how to cope with.
19 Jul 2017, 12:42 am
19 Jul 2017, 6:52 am
hurtloam wrote:
Mark zuceburg and bill gates are both married.
Right! And guess what they have in common..
19 Jul 2017, 7:05 am
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hurtloam wrote:
Ok I'm out. The reasoning on this thread is very circular.
It was a slight ribbing we were giving you for your examples, not a full frontal assault.
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