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KiannaKitter
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19 Jul 2017, 2:40 pm

It is only in the US you can get a friend or parent to teach you. That is very illegal here. You have to pay for a pro drive instructor and as another one from Denmark pointed out earlier, that is expensive. A license here costs at least 10,000 DKK and most likely it will climb to 15,000 DKK with extra lessons or even more. That is about 2,300 USD.

On top of that cars are expensive too and very hard to afford if you don't have a high paying job or save for years. That is why I am doubting getting it in the first place because I am pretty poor and I probably won't be able to afford a car anyway. Luckily my parents are loaded and they got my sister a car, so I am thinking maybe they would buy me one too. Otherwise there is always the option of borrowing other people's cars, but its not as paractical as having your own and in any case it all depends on whether or not I can pass.

I have mirror movements in my hands so everything my right does, the left copies....its not very practical with a steering wheel. Imagine if I go to change the radio while driving and my right hand goes right and then suddenly the left one on the wheel does the same and the whole car swerves to the side. :skull:


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19 Jul 2017, 2:52 pm

KiannaKitter wrote:
It is only in the US you can get a friend or parent to teach you. That is very illegal here. You have to pay for a pro drive instructor and as another one from Denmark pointed out earlier, that is expensive. A license here costs at least 10,000 DKK and most likely it will climb to 15,000 DKK with extra lessons or even more. That is about 2,300 USD.

On top of that cars are expensive too and very hard to afford if you don't have a high paying job or save for years. That is why I am doubting getting it in the first place because I am pretty poor and I probably won't be able to afford a car anyway. Luckily my parents are loaded and they got my sister a car, so I am thinking maybe they would buy me one too. Otherwise there is always the option of borrowing other people's cars, but its not as paractical as having your own and in any case it all depends on whether or not I can pass.

I have mirror movements in my hands so everything my right does, the left copies....its not very practical with a steering wheel. Imagine if I go to change the radio while driving and my right hand goes right and then suddenly the left one on the wheel does the same and the whole car swerves to the side. :skull:


I'm betting that most of this is a non issue because public transport is good in Denmark. Am I right?



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19 Jul 2017, 2:58 pm

KiannaKitter wrote:
It is only in the US you can get a friend or parent to teach you. That is very illegal here. You have to pay for a pro drive instructor and as another one from Denmark pointed out earlier, that is expensive. A license here costs at least 10,000 DKK and most likely it will climb to 15,000 DKK with extra lessons or even more. That is about 2,300 USD.

On top of that cars are expensive too and very hard to afford if you don't have a high paying job or save for years. That is why I am doubting getting it in the first place because I am pretty poor and I probably won't be able to afford a car anyway. Luckily my parents are loaded and they got my sister a car, so I am thinking maybe they would buy me one too. Otherwise there is always the option of borrowing other people's cars, but its not as paractical as having your own and in any case it all depends on whether or not I can pass.

I have mirror movements in my hands so everything my right does, the left copies....its not very practical with a steering wheel. Imagine if I go to change the radio while driving and my right hand goes right and then suddenly the left one on the wheel does the same and the whole car swerves to the side. :skull:


Also sounds to me like liberal fascism at work in your country. Its ILLEGAL to have a friend teach you to drive? That's insane. And 2300 USD??? I paid 8 USD to have mine renewed last November. You have to come back every 4 years just for the vision test. My hypothesis is that they are just trying to keep cars off the roads by making it way to difficult to learn to drive. And how about buying a used car? My first was bought for 400USD. Wasn't in the best shape, but it got from point A to point B just fine.



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19 Jul 2017, 2:59 pm

Um...that really depends of what countries you compare it to. But the short answer is nope. There is always something up with it. They don't run on time, they have a lot of cancelled trains or way too crowded trains, the electronic system fails and the whole thing comes to a screeching halt for hours. Been there, done that.

Of course, if you are in the capital or the bigger cities you are more likely to have a nice ride, but if you are in the rural areas you are lucky if the bus even runs once an hour and after 9 pm. I would like to live out in the middle of nowhere with loads of nature around me, but I can't do that because I would literally be stuck without being able to get anywhere. So I am forced into the cities in a way.

I couldn't even afford a used car. As it is right now, I have about 5000DKK saved for that license and that has taken me about 6 months to save for. So I am only halfway there. Maybe next summer I will have enough if my pets don't get sick and needs a vet all of a sudden. If something like that happens the vet is gonna clean me out and my 18 year old cat is not in too good a shape. She has feline leukemia. Then I can start all over with the saving, it seems like something always comes up in that regard. An extra bill that will suddenly screw up everything and I am back to where I started.

We are a socialist nation. Our taxes are over 50% because we pay to have everyone taken care of, no one who can't provide for themselves gets left behind, we have one of the best healtcare systems and childcare systems in the world too and the best social system....if we didn't have those high taxes and high prizes there would be no money to pay for all that. And I know it sounds crazy to you American's but it kinda works for us. There is a reason we are named the happiest people in the world, helping others feels good. I stand by our system and regret nothing.


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Stop trying to get attention from those who hurt you. Stop hating your body, your face, your personality, your quirks - love them.
Without those things you wouldn't be you and why would you want to be someone else? Be confident with who you are. Smile.
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19 Jul 2017, 3:05 pm

KiannaKitter wrote:
Um...that really depends of what countries you compare it to But the short answer is nope. There is always something up with it. They don't run on time, they have a lot of cancelled trains or way too crowded trains, the electronic system fails and the whole thing comes to a screeching halt for hours. Been there, done that.

Of course, if you are in the capital or the bigger cities you are more likely to have a nice ride, but if you are in the rural areas you are lucky if the bus even runs once an hour and after 9 pm. I would like to live out in the middle of nowhere with loads of nature around me, but I can't do that because I would literally be stuck without being able to get anywhere. So I am forced into the cities in a way.


That sounds like what we have in the US. Public transport is very good in the city of Chicago. Its terrible in the suburbs and almost non existent in rural areas. But we also have WAY WAY more rural land than you do. A car of your own would be required in those areas even if they did have public transport.



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19 Jul 2017, 3:15 pm

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KiannaKitter wrote:
Um...that really depends of what countries you compare it to But the short answer is nope. There is always something up with it. They don't run on time, they have a lot of cancelled trains or way too crowded trains, the electronic system fails and the whole thing comes to a screeching halt for hours. Been there, done that.

Of course, if you are in the capital or the bigger cities you are more likely to have a nice ride, but if you are in the rural areas you are lucky if the bus even runs once an hour and after 9 pm. I would like to live out in the middle of nowhere with loads of nature around me, but I can't do that because I would literally be stuck without being able to get anywhere. So I am forced into the cities in a way.


That sounds like what we have in the US. Public transport is very good in the city of Chicago. Its terrible in the suburbs and almost non existent in rural areas. But we also have WAY WAY more rural land than you do. A car of your own would be required in those areas even if they did have public transport.


True. You are WAYYYYYYY bigger than little us. Here it takes about 5-6 hours to drive from one end of the country to the other. When I was on a roadtrip vacation in the US we could drive through the desert for DAYS and never see a living soul really. It was quite intriquing, yet disturbing and would be absolutely terrifying if your car broke down. :D


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Stop wishing you looked like someone else or wishing people liked you as much as they like someone else. It's a waste of time.
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Without those things you wouldn't be you and why would you want to be someone else? Be confident with who you are. Smile.
And if anyone hates on you because you're happy with yourself then you stick your middle finger in the air and say "Screw it."

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19 Jul 2017, 3:20 pm

KiannaKitter wrote:
drwho222 wrote:
KiannaKitter wrote:
Um...that really depends of what countries you compare it to But the short answer is nope. There is always something up with it. They don't run on time, they have a lot of cancelled trains or way too crowded trains, the electronic system fails and the whole thing comes to a screeching halt for hours. Been there, done that.

Of course, if you are in the capital or the bigger cities you are more likely to have a nice ride, but if you are in the rural areas you are lucky if the bus even runs once an hour and after 9 pm. I would like to live out in the middle of nowhere with loads of nature around me, but I can't do that because I would literally be stuck without being able to get anywhere. So I am forced into the cities in a way.


That sounds like what we have in the US. Public transport is very good in the city of Chicago. Its terrible in the suburbs and almost non existent in rural areas. But we also have WAY WAY more rural land than you do. A car of your own would be required in those areas even if they did have public transport.


True. You are WAYYYYYYY bigger than little us. Here it takes about 5-6 hours to drive from one end of the country to the other. When I was on a roadtrip vacation in the US we could drive through the desert for DAYS and never see a living soul really. It was quite intriquing, yet disturbing and would be absolutely terrifying if your car broke down. :D


Most of those areas in the Western USA were settled in the mid to late 19th century by people in wagons who came from East of the Mississippi River. Think about that.



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19 Jul 2017, 3:24 pm

drwho222 wrote:
KiannaKitter wrote:
drwho222 wrote:
KiannaKitter wrote:
Um...that really depends of what countries you compare it to But the short answer is nope. There is always something up with it. They don't run on time, they have a lot of cancelled trains or way too crowded trains, the electronic system fails and the whole thing comes to a screeching halt for hours. Been there, done that.

Of course, if you are in the capital or the bigger cities you are more likely to have a nice ride, but if you are in the rural areas you are lucky if the bus even runs once an hour and after 9 pm. I would like to live out in the middle of nowhere with loads of nature around me, but I can't do that because I would literally be stuck without being able to get anywhere. So I am forced into the cities in a way.


That sounds like what we have in the US. Public transport is very good in the city of Chicago. Its terrible in the suburbs and almost non existent in rural areas. But we also have WAY WAY more rural land than you do. A car of your own would be required in those areas even if they did have public transport.


True. You are WAYYYYYYY bigger than little us. Here it takes about 5-6 hours to drive from one end of the country to the other. When I was on a roadtrip vacation in the US we could drive through the desert for DAYS and never see a living soul really. It was quite intriquing, yet disturbing and would be absolutely terrifying if your car broke down. :D


Most of those areas in the Western USA were settled in the mid to late 19th century by people in wagons who came from East of the Mississippi River. Think about that.


I'd rather not because it blows my mind. Them using wagons in that weather and no AC for such long distances. Dear God, we almost died when we took that drive. It was 50C in the shade, our bread was toasting itself in the sun and the cheese was melting. My dad was scared to turn the car off for too long because we would be screwed if it got overheated and broke down. You gotta remember, temps here rarely get about 20C, our official summer days are 25C (which we have only had 7 of this year so far) and when it gets about 30C we call it a heat wave and the Danes start to slowly whine, melt and die, lol. We are so not used to high temps. It's rather pathetic actually :lol:


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Hey you. Yes, you. Stop being unhappy with yourself, you are perfect.

Stop wishing you looked like someone else or wishing people liked you as much as they like someone else. It's a waste of time.
Stop trying to get attention from those who hurt you. Stop hating your body, your face, your personality, your quirks - love them.
Without those things you wouldn't be you and why would you want to be someone else? Be confident with who you are. Smile.
And if anyone hates on you because you're happy with yourself then you stick your middle finger in the air and say "Screw it."

My happiness will not depend on others anymore. I'm happy because I love who I am.
I love my flaws, I love my imperfections, they make me ME - and me is pretty amazing.


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20 Jul 2017, 2:29 pm

Even though I practiced some in my teens, I didn't get my license until I was 21. My family always went everywhere together so there really wasn't ever a need for me to drive my own car. But as I got older and got my own job, I needed to drive myself places. And I hated people asking me when I was going to get my license all the time.



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20 Jul 2017, 4:25 pm

I've never been the kind of guy that is enthusiastic about cars, and I don't think I ever will be. They scare me.

I tried having lessons twice, but quitted due to overwhelm - so much thrown at you all at once, and lessons were expensive. I learnt in a manual and I heard automatic is generally better for Aspies, but I'm not keen to put myself through it again even though its overwhelming when you just walk around for transport and a car passes you every second. If I passed I wouldn't know where I'd exactly go anyway.
In my opinion it's a very NT orientated skill. You have to read visual cues from other drivers and communicate well, deal with uncertainty as the road is different each time. I suffer from OCD, anxiety and panic too. I guess some Aspies can be better at it than others.


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20 Jul 2017, 5:27 pm

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I learned on the farm. At 16 years plus 2 weeks for "practice" I got my chauffeur's licence, driving stick shift on ice.

I'm surprised they allowed you to be a chauffeur if you were driving whilst on ice.
I hope you mean icy roads?

I've never had any problems driving.
Got my learners at 16 and my licence at 17, as the law dictated at that time.
I can tow a caravan or trailer and even back them, no problem.
My licence is now suspended for medical reasons.
I really miss the freedom of being able to go where I please independently.


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20 Jul 2017, 10:39 pm

I got my license at the age of 28, mostly because when I was in high school, they only had the classroom portion of driver's ed and my parents didn't want to pay for behind the wheel lessons. They also didn't want their insurance rates to go up by my being a teenager and at the highest risk at the time. In the end, it was a DOR counselor that suggested I just get my license as it would help me get a job anywhere, as public transportation doesn't go everywhere. My first car was one my mom had for years, and when that finally bit the dust, my dad got me a new car for a birthday gift almost 3 years ago.



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21 Jul 2017, 6:43 am

I started driving when I was 19. I felt so jelous of my same age cousin who started driving when he was 16. He's always ahead of me. I had to pay $150 per week for lessons, which used up most of my money at the time.


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21 Jul 2017, 9:43 am

I'm 26 and still don't drive. I'd like to sometime in the future; I just haven't had many opportunities to.



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21 Jul 2017, 1:13 pm

To all non Americans, I should clarify something. In the USA, the majority of people learn to drive and get their licence in High School, after taking a Driver Education course during their third year. The behind the wheel training is given usually by your Physical Education teacher. There is a fee, but its nowhere near as expensive as in Denmark.



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21 Jul 2017, 1:18 pm

We can't get a license until we are 18, but I think there are some talks about lowering the age to 16. Or it was already passed last year, maybe. I don't remember.


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Stop wishing you looked like someone else or wishing people liked you as much as they like someone else. It's a waste of time.
Stop trying to get attention from those who hurt you. Stop hating your body, your face, your personality, your quirks - love them.
Without those things you wouldn't be you and why would you want to be someone else? Be confident with who you are. Smile.
And if anyone hates on you because you're happy with yourself then you stick your middle finger in the air and say "Screw it."

My happiness will not depend on others anymore. I'm happy because I love who I am.
I love my flaws, I love my imperfections, they make me ME - and me is pretty amazing.