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17 Nov 2017, 4:23 am

THE KOREAN VERSION IS BETTER! Except for the fact it is a k-drama and sorta too much like a soap, I like it more.



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17 Nov 2017, 10:06 am

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THE KOREAN VERSION IS BETTER! Except for the fact it is a k-drama and sorta too much like a soap, I like it more.


Any autistic characters in it?


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17 Nov 2017, 3:34 pm

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johnnyh wrote:
THE KOREAN VERSION IS BETTER! Except for the fact it is a k-drama and sorta too much like a soap, I like it more.


Any autistic characters in it?


You can watch the Korean version online here



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18 Nov 2017, 7:11 am

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johnnyh wrote:
THE KOREAN VERSION IS BETTER! Except for the fact it is a k-drama and sorta too much like a soap, I like it more.


Any autistic characters in it?


Yes, the main character is, and he is a quiet introvert who has much more depth than the smiling little twit of the US version. There is the air he knows he is different and he struggles to find his place in the world, and his job is an opportunity. He uses his skills because they are what are available for his chance of life. Not quirky at all, serious.
Also his condition is merely there because it is the premise of the show's plot. It does not celebrate autism at all for it's own sake. The US remake completely missed the point of the original.



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27 Nov 2017, 11:00 pm

It's kind of funny (in a cringe-y sort of way) to watch him and see my younger self. I guess it's realistic in that respect.

Other than that?? It's just another doctor show.

It's nice to see some out-of-the-closet, human representation. I'm not Dr. Murphy anymore (and frankly I think I'd rather be associated with Sheldon Cooper), but I'd rather people think of that than OTHER notable examples.


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03 Dec 2017, 2:10 pm

Hmm. I just discovered that ABC Television has actor Freddie Highmore (The Good Doctor) advocating for Autism Speaks in what appears to be a Public-Service Announcement ( http://abc.go.com/shows/the-good-doctor ... dka4073445 ). I wonder if the PSA is available to local broadcasters in lieu of advertisements.

In an Autism Speaks blog post ( https://www.autismspeaks.org/blog/2017/ ... reness-psa ) from Nov. 27, 2017, it stated that "Autism Speaks is dedicated to promoting solutions, across the spectrum and throughout the lifespan, for the needs of individuals with autism and their families through advocacy and support; increasing understanding and acceptance of people with autism spectrum disorder; and advancing research into causes and better interventions for autism spectrum disorder and related conditions."

I understand that Autism Speaks is currently reinventing itself into something many people hope is a 180-degree turnaround from its former self. But, I wonder if attaching itself to the very popular television series was the right choice.


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30 Dec 2017, 1:41 am

The Good Doctor’s Autistic Protagonist Is a Jerk, and That’s an Important Step Forward By Sara Luterman for Slate Magazine

Sara Luterman is the founder of NOS Magazine, the first news and culture site by and for autistic people.

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The Good Doctor is the most-watched drama on television right now. I like competence porn, and so does most of America. This is the first time on TV the skilled, eccentric genius at the center is explicitly autistic, though. This is the first time he’s explicitly like me. And it’s also the first time an autistic person on television has been allowed to be fully human, even if it frequently seems to be by accident. None of the writers of The Good Doctor are autistic. None of the directors. None of the producers. Autistic adults are not in the room at all, although some members of the show’s visual-effects team are in a training program for autistic young adults. Freddie Highmore is not autistic, although he does a decent job portraying one of us on TV. When he plays Dr. Shaun Murphy, he has an “autism accent,” that unusual cadence that many of us speak with. He holds his body the way I hold my body.

In a recent review, the New York Times called Dr. Shaun Murphy an “anti-anti-hero.” As an autistic person, I find the interpretation baffling. Dr. Shaun Murphy is not an abrasive misanthrope like Dr. Gregory House, the subject of David Shore’s previous medical drama. However, he is also not an angelic cinnamon bun in a white coat as many non-autistic viewers and even the writers seem to think he is. He regularly disregards explicit instructions and feigns genuine misunderstanding. The nonautistic people around him, the viewers, and possibly even the writers seem to attribute his disruptive and disrespectful actions to his autism, absolving him of any culpability. Dr. Murphy often contradicts his superior, Dr. Melendez, in front of patients. Dr. Murphy has been explicitly instructed not to multiple times. He continues to do so. It is not because he doesn’t know any better, or because he has had some sort of involuntary vocal tic. Dr. Murphy contradicts Dr. Melendez in front of patients because he does not think that the particular instruction he was given is valid or important. It’s a dynamic that plays out frequently in a variety of situations. Dr. Murphy knows the rules and decides that the rules don’t matter. It’s a House kind of move. People only assume Dr. Murphy’s pure intentions because of his disability.

I’m used to relating to white male eccentrics whose specific skills in some areas make up for their lack of tact. The attraction of competence porn isn’t that Sherlock Holmes and Will Graham have surpassed the need to concern themselves with caring about other people’s feelings. Competence porn appeals to me because these men routinely fail to perform normal human interactions, but people, both within their worlds and the other side of the television screen, love them anyway. I used to fool myself into thinking that if I was brilliant enough, people would love me too. It made my frequent social failures growing up more bearable. I have learned that there is no actual amount of success that will forgive all your sins.

I don’t know if Dr. Murphy recognizes that he is being rude. As an autistic person, it’s often hard to tell how other people feel, which can lead to misunderstandings and hurt feelings. Not knowing, however, is not the same thing as not caring. In clinical terms, there is a difference between affective and cognitive empathy. Autistic people struggle with affective empathy, which means we often have difficulty telling how other people feel based on body language, tone, and other nonverbal tells that may be obvious to others. Cognitive empathy is the capacity to understand another person’s feelings and perspective. Autism does not impair cognitive empathy. Autistic people care deeply about hurting others.
I may have a hard time knowing I’ve said something rude to a friend or family member, but if they tell me I hurt them, I feel bad about hurting them. Dr. Murphy has decided that because he doesn’t feel what he’s saying is rude, what he is saying is, objectively, not rude. That’s not autism. That’s being a jerk.

Autistic people rarely get portrayed as real, complete human beings. In Netflix’s Atypical, the autistic main character, Sam, is essentially a diagnostic checklist, not a whole person. He’s hollow inside—there’s nothing in his mind except sex and penguins. The show isn’t really about Sam. The show is about Sam’s autism, and how it affects Sam’s family. He is, in many way, a plot device in what is supposed to be his own story. The Good Doctor does not fall into the trap of being about how autism “affects families.” Instead, it portrays an autistic adult as a whole, complex person. This is partially due to the source material: Shaun Murphy’s Korean counterpart is an orphan, and on the U.S. version, he’s at least estranged from his abusive parents, to the extent it’s not clear if they’re still living or not. The show cannot tell the vomitously overused story of strained marriages and put-upon siblings because there is no marriage and there are no siblings. As a result, the writers are forced to write a story that is actually about Shaun. They and the viewers are forced to empathize with Shaun. It’s the best representation of an autistic person I’ve ever seen on television. I strongly suspect it isn’t on purpose. I don’t care.


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04 Jan 2018, 3:56 am

Btw, thanks for sharing
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04 Jan 2018, 4:08 am

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04 Jan 2018, 5:15 pm

Just started to watch that show :)

I wonder how many aspies are discriminated in work place, like the lead charakter of this show ? :(



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06 Feb 2018, 2:53 am

As I posted in the LGBT section this weeks show featured a trans teengennder girl patient played by a transgender teen girl actress.


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06 Feb 2018, 10:42 am

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As I posted in the LGBT section this weeks show featured a trans teengennder girl patient played by a transgender teen girl actress.

Oh! I didn't know that the actress was trans*, as well. Cool. 8)

It is too bad that the writers didn't inform the character (Shaun Murphy) that about 10 percent of LGBT (primarily FtM trans*) individuals are autistic. Similarly, about 10 percent of autists are LGBT.


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06 Feb 2018, 5:38 pm

******SPOILERS*****SPOILERS*****SPOILERS*****
At first Dr. Murphy at first looks at the Transgender issues in a very Autistically logical way. The trans girl is "he" because she was born in a male a body, emotions or identity does not occur to him. But I like that as the show goes on Dr. Murphy while not understanding her also feels a connection to her because he like her also was bullied relentlessly for being different, for being himself.


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08 Feb 2018, 2:25 am

The show is streaming on Lightbox in New Zealand

Why The Good Doctor Is Not Just Another Medical Drama

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Lead actor Freddie Highmore, who plays Murphy, says he hopes the series represents a new evolution in how television portrays autistic characters.

"I'm not sure if it's unique, but it's certainly rare to own the subject as much as The Good Doctor is doing," Highmore tells TimeOut. "And I feel that's necessary.

Adapted from an award-winning South Korean series by House creator David Shore, The Good Doctor begins with Murphy joining the surgical staff of a prestigious New Mexico hospital at the behest of his mentor and close friend, hospital president Aaron Glassman (The West Wing's Richard Schiff). It's a move that is met with resistance by almost everybody else in the hospital.

"You see the extent to which people with autism are discriminated against in the workplace," says Highmore, who viewers will recognise as the former British child star from Finding Neverland and Charlie and the Chocolate FactorY.

Often those conversations take place behind closed doors and we're not even aware that they're going on. And so I think having a show that will hopefully spark a dialogue and doesn't seek to hide behind a wishy-washy sense of whether the lead character does or doesn't have autism, I think is important."

Highmore admits the subject matter comes with a certain degree of responsibility.

"We felt that responsibility from the very beginning in wanting to make sure that Shaun never becomes a caricature."

The Good Doctor will help put to rest some of the cliches about autism.

"I think that what sets Shaun apart from perhaps other portrayals of people who have autism on TV and in film, is that he's not that stereotypically emotionless person. We get to see what makes him laugh, who he may fall in love with, how and when he's happy and what excites him. It's not about negating the very real struggle that he faces by dint of having autism, but at the same time it's celebrating the unique view of the world that he does have."

As proud of the portrayal as Highmore is, he is keen to stress that Shaun Murphy is a specific take on the subject.

"The important thing to remember is that Shaun will never, nor should he represent everyone who is on the spectrum. In the same way a neurotypical main character of a show will never represent the plethora and wide range of people that are neurotypical. We're telling Shaun's story. His individual life and his individual personality. And yes, he has autism and he also has savant syndrome, but he's not only defined by those two characteristics."


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08 Mar 2018, 5:46 am

Autism Drama ‘The Good Doctor’ Awarded New Season

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With sky-high ratings, network executives are green-lighting a second season for a prime-time drama centering on a physician on the spectrum.

ABC said this week that “The Good Doctor” will be back for the 2018-2019 season.


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With sky-high ratings, network executives are green-lighting a second season for a prime-time drama centering on a physician on the spectrum.

ABC said this week that “The Good Doctor” will be back for the 2018-2019 season.

Good news. :-)


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