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31 Jul 2017, 3:35 pm

Globalism is based off assumptions from population control as well as using a systematic approach of mind manipulation. Starting with our education system, if they can convince youth that they are merely sophisticated animals and products of a random natural selection prompted by an evolutionary cycle, it is a way to control and brainwash the masses. This leads to a very selfish mentality, where people are convinced all their motives are the result of animal needs. When in reality, it is because of our fallen human nature, which happened after Adam and Eve in the garden. God created us in His image. Satan is the father of all lies, and the biggest lie that ever came from the mouth of Satan is that we were not created, but that we "evolved".



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31 Jul 2017, 3:54 pm

Science is always changing.

Usually they get it wrong at first, which is odd if you think about it.

Newton's laws of motion got shot down with quantum.
Homosexual is not in the DSM anymore.
Cigarettes are no longer "doctor tested, and approved".
Electric shock therapy, lobotomies, LGBT corrective therapy are now out.
Doctors no longer laugh at the idea of invisible, small infectious faries we now call "germs".
Maxwell's Electrical laws like Newton's motion laws got shot down with quantum.
Etc, etc ....



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31 Jul 2017, 4:10 pm

Why is it "odd" that they would "get it wrong the first time"?

You would expect folks to take baby steps first and get it wrong, before they get it right in science, just like they do in every other human endeavor.



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31 Jul 2017, 5:03 pm

rvacountrysinger wrote:
Globalism is based off assumptions from population control as well as using a systematic approach of mind manipulation. Starting with our education system, if they can convince youth that they are merely sophisticated animals and products of a random natural selection prompted by an evolutionary cycle, it is a way to control and brainwash the masses. This leads to a very selfish mentality, where people are convinced all their motives are the result of animal needs. When in reality, it is because of our fallen human nature, which happened after Adam and Eve in the garden. God created us in His image. Satan is the father of all lies, and the biggest lie that ever came from the mouth of Satan is that we were not created, but that we "evolved".


If you truly believe God made everything in 6 days then I have a question for you: define a day in the biblical sense. The only thing I ever see in Genesis is it was day, then night to define the day. OK, but is there any length to the day and the night? I've never seen any measurement of time in Genesis. Remember, this is YHWH, he is omnipotent and omnipresent. He can manipulate time any way he wants.

Given those assumptions, creationism and evolution can live harmoniously.



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31 Jul 2017, 5:32 pm

Nature doesn't have to be selfless facts are facts. You are attempting to moralise nature, when that doesn't in anyway refute the evidence nor does prove otherwise.

Indecently, our highly evolved minds make capable in the discipline of theory of ethics a far better approach to moral questions and morality based on doctrine.

The Bible on the other hand is stock full of unethical and immoral behaviour. Absolute morality tends to do that, especially if it comes from and outdated and limited world view.



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31 Jul 2017, 6:07 pm

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Why is it "odd" that they would "get it wrong the first time"?

You would expect folks to take baby steps first and get it wrong, before they get it right in science, just like they do in every other human endeavor.

Scientists are depicted as noble people who seek to inquire about nature.

Strange, isn't it? How their noble inquiries into nature, somehow are consistently wrong at first, and result in so much human suffering ?

Radium water or radium bath, anyone ? Hey, it's good for ya.

Have you ever been to a doctor regarding autism or LGBT ?

That reason alone, their high probability of being wrong at first, makes me think evolution is wrong, climate change is wrong, and both will be replaced with some new truth later on.



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31 Jul 2017, 6:33 pm

That old Devil was awful busy sprinkling those dinosaur bones around to confuse people.


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31 Jul 2017, 6:39 pm

You really think a story featuring a talking snake is more realistic than evolution?

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31 Jul 2017, 7:26 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
Why is it "odd" that they would "get it wrong the first time"?

You would expect folks to take baby steps first and get it wrong, before they get it right in science, just like they do in every other human endeavor.

Scientists are depicted as noble people who seek to inquire about nature.

Strange, isn't it? How their noble inquiries into nature, somehow are consistently wrong at first, and result in so much human suffering ?

Radium water or radium bath, anyone ? Hey, it's good for ya.

Have you ever been to a doctor regarding autism or LGBT ?

That reason alone, their high probability of being wrong at first, makes me think evolution is wrong, climate change is wrong, and both will be replaced with some new truth later on.


Wrong...at first?????

Earth to LNH, Darwin was over 150 years ago. His work dovetailed with Mendel to form "the modern synthesis" that modern biology has been based on for most of those 150 years. You cant call Darwin "at first" anymore. He has abundantly proven or corroborated for 150 years.

And even if his theory were to be over turned for a "new truth" (which is perfectly possible) this new truth would still involve change over time (ie evolution), and would not resemble Genisis in the old testament.



And by the way: you never answered my question in the last thread. My question being: Why do you claim to be an "atheist" on WP when its obvious that you are a religious young earth creationist?



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31 Jul 2017, 7:30 pm

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Globalism is based off assumptions from population control as well as using a systematic approach of mind manipulation. Starting with our education system, if they can convince youth that they are merely sophisticated animals and products of a random natural selection prompted by an evolutionary cycle, it is a way to control and brainwash the masses. This leads to a very selfish mentality, where people are convinced all their motives are the result of animal needs. When in reality, it is because of our fallen human nature, which happened after Adam and Eve in the garden. God created us in His image. Satan is the father of all lies, and the biggest lie that ever came from the mouth of Satan is that we were not created, but that we "evolved".


Evidence please, for both of your claims?

Evidence that evolution is wrong, and that the Universe was created in 4000 BC.

And Evidence for this world wide conspiracy to suppress Young Earth Creationism.



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31 Jul 2017, 8:18 pm

Science is neither right nor wrong, it's a process that relies on evidence to form conclusions. As such, it's constantly changing as new evidence either expands existing scientific knowledge, places caveats on existing scientific knowledge, or refutes said knowledge.



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31 Jul 2017, 9:31 pm

rvacountrysinger wrote:
Globalism is based off assumptions from population control as well as using a systematic approach of mind manipulation. Starting with our education system, if they can convince youth that they are merely sophisticated animals and products of a random natural selection prompted by an evolutionary cycle, it is a way to control and brainwash the masses. This leads to a very selfish mentality, where people are convinced all their motives are the result of animal needs. When in reality, it is because of our fallen human nature, which happened after Adam and Eve in the garden. God created us in His image. Satan is the father of all lies, and the biggest lie that ever came from the mouth of Satan is that we were not created, but that we "evolved".


The theory of descent with modification based on natural selection and genetic variation is one of the most corroborated scientific theories. We know understand the underlying mechanics of inheritance rather well although there are still many open questions.

Genetics and evolution where hooked up in the 20 th century and constitute a well supported theory.

The biblical account is just the sort of story bronze age dudes would tell. These people thought the earth was flat, believed the sun went around our flat earth and had no concept of how matter and energy worked. In short they were totally pre-scientific. So you can forget about taking the Genesis story literally.


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31 Jul 2017, 9:35 pm

While I can agree with the OP that globalism of any centralized form is just a really bone-headed idea doomed for failure I think he needs to actually study some geology, study the kinds of things that have happened not just to inorganic matter but to the organic/living matter of life as well that simply doesn't unfold over 6,000 years.

In general a lot of people tend to attempt making overly tidy pictures of reality and when a person has a core idea that they're functioning on - whether it's a revelation-based religion or some type of religion based on Marx - they'll do similar things of choosing which facts they'll consider in order to make life simple. Manichaean dualism, ie. epic war of good vs. evil, is part in parcel with that strategy.


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31 Jul 2017, 9:52 pm

rvacountrysinger wrote:
Starting with our education system, if they can convince youth that they are merely sophisticated animals and products of a random natural selection prompted by an evolutionary cycle, it is a way to control and brainwash the masses. This leads to a very selfish mentality, where people are convinced all their motives are the result of animal needs. When in reality, it is because of our fallen human nature, which happened after Adam and Eve in the garden. God created us in His image. Satan is the father of all lies, and the biggest lie that ever came from the mouth of Satan is that we were not created, but that we "evolved".

Clickbait and trolling a little?

Actually, God created evolution.

And if Charles Darwin was Satan, he would have done a lot more damage than coming up with a theory based on divergent populations of God's birds.


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31 Jul 2017, 10:41 pm

as always, guaranteed replies and an increasingly clear posting pattern from the OP. :)


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