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09 Aug 2017, 2:34 pm

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ah.
when i read "pies" i immediately think that they must be whole pies to count as a pie.
it makes sense that they could still be considered pies in fractions.
a piece of pie is still a pie. even if it is the smallest crumb of pie? it is a pie.
That was exactly what my problem was. I'm not alone. Thank you. This topic has turned out to be pretty interesting because of the different ways in which people perceived the problem. My initial thinking was that people would either get it right or if they had a problem with it, it would be the same problem I had. Theory of Mind for you



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09 Aug 2017, 2:39 pm

Yeah...I guess there is more than one way that you could...slice it! :D



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09 Aug 2017, 2:44 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
seaweed wrote:
ah.
when i read "pies" i immediately think that they must be whole pies to count as a pie.
it makes sense that they could still be considered pies in fractions.
a piece of pie is still a pie. even if it is the smallest crumb of pie? it is a pie.


Well... no.

"Half of a pie" is just half of a pie. But its still a viable desert.
In theory a baker could sell you half of a pie (or one 12th slice of pie) for less than the price of a whole pie.

In contrast if you chop a car in two neither half would be drivable. So a car dealership couldn't sell you a "half car" (even if you couldn't afford a whole car).

You've inspired me. I have a new question. If Bob has 99 pies, and Alex has half of Bob's pies, how many deserts does Alex have?



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09 Aug 2017, 2:45 pm

soloha wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
seaweed wrote:
ah.
when i read "pies" i immediately think that they must be whole pies to count as a pie.
it makes sense that they could still be considered pies in fractions.
a piece of pie is still a pie. even if it is the smallest crumb of pie? it is a pie.


Well... no.

"Half of a pie" is just half of a pie. But its still a viable desert.
In theory a baker could sell you half of a pie (or one 12th slice of pie) for less than the price of a whole pie.

In contrast if you chop a car in two neither half would be drivable. So a car dealership couldn't sell you a "half car" (even if you couldn't afford a whole car).

You've inspired me. I have a new question. If Bob has 99 pies, and Alex has half of Bob's pies, how many deserts does Alex have?


Why does Bob have so many pies anyway? Does he have some kind of pie business going on? :D


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09 Aug 2017, 2:45 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
seaweed wrote:
ah.
when i read "pies" i immediately think that they must be whole pies to count as a pie.
it makes sense that they could still be considered pies in fractions.
a piece of pie is still a pie. even if it is the smallest crumb of pie? it is a pie.


Well... no.

"Half of a pie" is just half of a pie. But its still a viable desert.
In theory a baker could sell you half of a pie (or one 12th slice of pie) for less than the price of a whole pie.

In contrast if you chop a car in two neither half would be drivable. So a car dealership couldn't sell you a "half car" (even if you couldn't afford a whole car).


oh no, you've brought the real world back.
now i'm confused again.

but still a crumb of pie is still a viable dessert, albeit unsatisfying.
if alex has 100.1 pies and bob has half as many, wouldn't bob have 50.05 pies?



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09 Aug 2017, 2:49 pm

Exactly.

Fifty whole pies, and one of 20 equal slices of another pie.



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09 Aug 2017, 2:51 pm

soloha wrote:
seaweed wrote:
ah.
when i read "pies" i immediately think that they must be whole pies to count as a pie.
it makes sense that they could still be considered pies in fractions.
a piece of pie is still a pie. even if it is the smallest crumb of pie? it is a pie.
That was exactly what my problem was. I'm not alone. Thank you. This topic has turned out to be pretty interesting because of the different ways in which people perceived the problem. My initial thinking was that people would either get it right or if they had a problem with it, it would be the same problem I had. Theory of Mind for you

it might be a language problem more than anything. in math speak we are expected to know that pies can be cut into fractions. in dessert speak, a pie is a whole pie. if it is cut up then it is a piece of pie.



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09 Aug 2017, 2:55 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
Exactly.

Fifty whole pies, and one of 20 equal slices of another pie.


what if bob just wants extra turbos for one of his cars 8O



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09 Aug 2017, 2:55 pm

seaweed wrote:
soloha wrote:
seaweed wrote:
ah.
when i read "pies" i immediately think that they must be whole pies to count as a pie.
it makes sense that they could still be considered pies in fractions.
a piece of pie is still a pie. even if it is the smallest crumb of pie? it is a pie.
That was exactly what my problem was. I'm not alone. Thank you. This topic has turned out to be pretty interesting because of the different ways in which people perceived the problem. My initial thinking was that people would either get it right or if they had a problem with it, it would be the same problem I had. Theory of Mind for you

it might be a language problem more than anything. in math speak we are expected to know that pies can be cut into fractions. in dessert speak, a pie is a whole pie. if it is cut up then it is a piece of pie.


But not such a "piece of pie" to answer the question, haha.


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09 Aug 2017, 2:58 pm

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But not such a "piece of pie" to answer the question, haha.


nooooooooooooooooooooo :lmao:



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09 Aug 2017, 3:08 pm

seaweed wrote:
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Exactly.

Fifty whole pies, and one of 20 equal slices of another pie.


what if bob just wants extra turbos for one of his cars 8O


Was afraid that you were go there. About spare parts.

Bob could be a gearhead who traffics in spare parts instead of a typical driver looking for transportation. So in that situation conceivably you could talk about a dealership selling fractional cars. But that's just it. you're then not dealing with cars as cars, but with cars as scrap, or as a collections of spare parts.



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09 Aug 2017, 3:12 pm

soloha wrote:
naturalplastic wrote:
seaweed wrote:
ah.
when i read "pies" i immediately think that they must be whole pies to count as a pie.
it makes sense that they could still be considered pies in fractions.
a piece of pie is still a pie. even if it is the smallest crumb of pie? it is a pie.


Well... no.

"Half of a pie" is just half of a pie. But its still a viable desert.
In theory a baker could sell you half of a pie (or one 12th slice of pie) for less than the price of a whole pie.

In contrast if you chop a car in two neither half would be drivable. So a car dealership couldn't sell you a "half car" (even if you couldn't afford a whole car).

You've inspired me. I have a new question. If Bob has 99 pies, and Alex has half of Bob's pies, how many deserts does Alex have?


Fifty deserts.

Carol could buy all of Alex's pies, and then slice each one into six slices to resell individually. And she would then have 594 desserts.



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09 Aug 2017, 3:15 pm

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But not such a "piece of pie" to answer the question, haha.


nooooooooooooooooooooo :lmao:


Sorry, just had to make that joke. :D


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09 Aug 2017, 3:19 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
Was afraid that you were go there. About spare parts.

Bob could be a gearhead who traffics in spare parts instead of a typical driver looking for transportation. So in that situation conceivably you could talk about a dealership selling fractional cars. But that's just it. you're then not dealing with cars as cars, but with cars as scrap, or as a collections of spare parts.


so the word problem problem could be mitigated by saying that bob is a gearhead or alex has pieces of pie for sale, and he'll even sell you a crumb for a penny.



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09 Aug 2017, 3:20 pm

Lost_dragon wrote:
seaweed wrote:
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But not such a "piece of pie" to answer the question, haha.


nooooooooooooooooooooo :lmao:


Sorry, just had to make that joke. :D


somebody had to :D



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09 Aug 2017, 3:20 pm

49,5. I don't understand the problem