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14 Aug 2017, 7:39 pm

Broken Sun Beam wrote:

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SaveFerris wrote:

I have a different definition of "secret shopper"

a secret shopper is someone who is sent into a shop or establishment to pose as a customer to rate the service of the shop

That's MY definition, as well!! I think the OP is talking about "undercover security" or "plain-clothes security"----but, anyway.....

In regard to the OP (I have NOT read this entire thread): I'm terribly sorry that happened to you----but, I agree with Tawaki, in that there's just too many people who should NOT be privvy to that information; AND, that it probably wouldn't've done any good, in the situation you described.

I understand that you said the info, was on the BACK, but, IMO, that is just giving people ammunition to put you down, consider you "less than", etc.----for example, I have had WAAAAAY too many experiences with medical "professionals" who instantly began talking to me like a child, for instance, once they knew I was a psych patient (when, really, all I was doing was seeing a psychiatrist, for ADHD meds); so, because ASD is so terribly MISunderstood, I wouldn't suggest divulging that information, to ANYONE, cuz you're REALLY taking a chance, IMO, that you'll be treated BETTER, cuz the deck could be stacked against you (as you experienced, in the OP).

Thanks yes that is what I meant. But I think you make a solid point. Perhaps having a separate card that I can just keep on me but not have to share in every instance would be preferable?

Yes, I think that's preferable----and, it looks like you like the card that AspieUtah has, so I think that'd be a good fit, for you. (I've actually considered it for myself, cuz I, additionally, have an auditory processing problem [CAPD], and I can't understand anyone who talks too quickly, or too loudly----PLUS, I have POTS [includes extremely low BP, and fainting / almost fainting, alot], and that can make me mumble [seem drunk/drugged/whatever], stumble, look "out-of-it".....)

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14 Aug 2017, 7:45 pm

You would hope that cops would get the special training needed to respond positively to those with "disability" cards.

Unfortunately, there are cops out there who would either laugh, or feel like the person with the "card" is trying to get "slick" somehow.

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14 Aug 2017, 8:15 pm

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Sadly it seems folks who ate drawn to law enforcement don't respect their responsibility for the public.

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14 Aug 2017, 8:18 pm

I think that's true in some cases.

In other cases, cops can be really good in these situations.

The problem lies in the "some cases" which are not good. They can be disastrous.

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14 Aug 2017, 8:21 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

Made me think of this

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14 Aug 2017, 10:40 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

I think that's true in some cases.

In other cases, cops can be really good in these situations.

The problem lies in the "some cases" which are not good. They can be disastrous.

I didn't mean literally mean every single cop. I meant a larger than comfortable percentage of them.

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14 Aug 2017, 11:41 pm

League_Girl wrote:

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For me...

If I am REALLY REALLY out about my ASD, what the hell, can't hurt. This means everyone knows you are autistic.

My problem with the card, is drivers' licenses are used as photo ID to get jobs, to sign your kids out of school...I wind up showing mine alot. I assume language impaired is displayed fairly large on the license.

I would not want everyone and the dog asking about what the language impaired means. It's one thing to have had a stroke, and your face is half paralyzed. The disability shows.

I guess it's up to you if you don't mind explaining the card to random people, and dealing with the questions.

ETA: about your store aituation. I doubt the card would have mattered in you initial getting manhandle. It might have matter if the cop looked in your wallet for ID. It's a step above the printed out cards stating you have Autism, because anyone can print those out. At least the DL is considered an official document.

"My ASD"? Was this posted by your husband?

I was referring as if I had autism. If I had ASD, and I was out about it, would I care if it was on an official document? Probably not.

If I had autism, and could deal with the hassle of people asking? People flip DLs over all the time to look at the back. Why? I don't know. The area I live in, there would be a gauntlet of 20 questions. Hiring for jobs around here, a DL is almost required as official ID. What if I "pass" enough not to need accommodations, do I want HR asking what is *that* all about.

I'm not passing myself off having ASD. I wrote as a therorectical example if I had it, those are the things I would think long and hard about.

My husband said no way in hell would he get that type of license. This is coming from a man who.would be almost non verbal with a stress police police situation.

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15 Aug 2017, 6:45 am

kraftiekortie wrote:

I think that's true in some cases.

In other cases, cops can be really good in these situations.

The problem lies in the "some cases" which are not good. They can be disastrous.

I used slightly more legalistic terms on my card for some reasons. While every law-enforcement officer (LEO) might not care about the card, presenting it to a LEO establishes certain understandings by the LEO who would be expected to take it and its information into consideration during the interaction with the card holder. Of course, a LEO might dismiss the card and its information, and act otherwise, but, with body-cameras being a requirement these days, I suspect that most LEOs would at least let a card's information influence a LEO's behaviors going forward during the interaction.

But, I have read that similar cards have also influenced better seating on airplanes, at theatres and restaurants, and other venues where sensory sensitivities might be willingly accommodated by the venue management.

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15 Aug 2017, 9:20 am

kraftiekortie wrote:

I don't think there is such a thing in New York State.

I'm sorry you had to go through that in Walmart. What's a "secret shopper?"

Secret shopper is when they go to the store to see how the service is. Its like a store detective of sorts.

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15 Aug 2017, 9:29 am

I have an alert bracelet and I've found it very helpful. I don't have a card but now I'm thinking I should look into getting one.

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15 Aug 2017, 2:30 pm

StampySquiddyFan wrote:

kraftiekortie wrote:

Every big store has security guards, known as "loss prevention specialists" or something like that.

"Loss Prevention Specialists" :lol:

. Why do they make it sound so fancy?

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18 Aug 2017, 8:50 pm

I didn't even know they made those. I got a regular license back in 2003 or so. Having "communication impediment" printed on my license doesn't seem necessary, as many people can probably tell I have one 30 seconds into a conversation with me.

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19 Aug 2017, 10:25 am

I always carry a card in my wallet saying I am Autistic and that I might be nonverbal. I made it out of an index card that I cut to fit in my wallet and I had it laminated at Staples. I used it once in the emergency room when i was nonverbal. The nurse immediately did everything she could to accommodate me. I was very happy to have it. It really helped. I don't think I would ever put the fact that I am Autistic on a driver's license but I do carry my card around. I also have Autism medical alert bracelets and an Autism alert dog tag style necklace.

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