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13 Nov 2017, 2:23 pm

I think with laundry it’s better to make sure that it’s actually clean. If too many clothes or not enough powder goes in, the clothes can come out smelling sour, and it needs to be washed again. I’d rather do my own chores, then at least I know they’re done properly.



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13 Nov 2017, 2:30 pm

cathylynn wrote:
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hurtloam wrote:
314pe wrote:
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The article mentions emotional labour as well.

You mean that men invest less and women more emotionally in a relationship? Could you elaborate more what do you think about this?


My respective from what I've seen of unhappy couples I know is the woman feels like she's always the one sorting everything out and gets no support.

She's the one who keeps the wheels greased and things moving. She has to remind him to pay that bill, cut that hedge before we can't get through the gate anymore, remember your lunch, get a haircut, please wash that t-shirt it smells you can't wear it again, you need to wipe the gunk out from around the taps not just wipe the sink ... these women replace Mum's they're not wives they're surrogate mothers.

Same with emotional things they care for how the children feel if they're getting bullied, they patch up broader family issues, remind x they should phone y because Grandma died and they actually do want some comfort and would like to hear your voice, yes it would be good if you went to your nieces wedding.

They get tired and stressed with it all and feel like no one is there to support them emotionally. They feel like they're always giving out, managing things, not getting any relief.


I remind my female relatives to do stuff or pay bills lol
I’m guess the hedge and shirt doesn’t bother him but does bother her,so it’s more a her issue. I do my own laundry too and I’d gladly do my gf laundry if I had one. I assume could be done together unless Curtis. Clothes are special requirements like my work shirts. Though would women like me less for doing laundry as it’d bee seen as feminine.
I pack my own lunch I could pack her a sandwich. Maybe those women should date me instead:p


my husband did our laundry when he could navigate steps and does the dishes. i cook. we think our arrangement is fair. both parties feeling fairly treated goes a long way toward making a healthy relationship.


I could cook dinner for a gf most nights.

I won’t ever get to find out :(



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13 Nov 2017, 3:04 pm

sly279 wrote:
cathylynn wrote:
sly279 wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
314pe wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
The article mentions emotional labour as well.

You mean that men invest less and women more emotionally in a relationship? Could you elaborate more what do you think about this?


My respective from what I've seen of unhappy couples I know is the woman feels like she's always the one sorting everything out and gets no support.

She's the one who keeps the wheels greased and things moving. She has to remind him to pay that bill, cut that hedge before we can't get through the gate anymore, remember your lunch, get a haircut, please wash that t-shirt it smells you can't wear it again, you need to wipe the gunk out from around the taps not just wipe the sink ... these women replace Mum's they're not wives they're surrogate mothers.

Same with emotional things they care for how the children feel if they're getting bullied, they patch up broader family issues, remind x they should phone y because Grandma died and they actually do want some comfort and would like to hear your voice, yes it would be good if you went to your nieces wedding.

They get tired and stressed with it all and feel like no one is there to support them emotionally. They feel like they're always giving out, managing things, not getting any relief.


I remind my female relatives to do stuff or pay bills lol
I’m guess the hedge and shirt doesn’t bother him but does bother her,so it’s more a her issue. I do my own laundry too and I’d gladly do my gf laundry if I had one. I assume could be done together unless Curtis. Clothes are special requirements like my work shirts. Though would women like me less for doing laundry as it’d bee seen as feminine.
I pack my own lunch I could pack her a sandwich. Maybe those women should date me instead:p


my husband did our laundry when he could navigate steps and does the dishes. i cook. we think our arrangement is fair. both parties feeling fairly treated goes a long way toward making a healthy relationship.


I could cook dinner for a gf most nights.

I won’t ever get to find out :(


not ever is a long time.



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13 Nov 2017, 3:10 pm

sly279 wrote:
cathylynn wrote:
sly279 wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
314pe wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
The article mentions emotional labour as well.

You mean that men invest less and women more emotionally in a relationship? Could you elaborate more what do you think about this?


My respective from what I've seen of unhappy couples I know is the woman feels like she's always the one sorting everything out and gets no support.

She's the one who keeps the wheels greased and things moving. She has to remind him to pay that bill, cut that hedge before we can't get through the gate anymore, remember your lunch, get a haircut, please wash that t-shirt it smells you can't wear it again, you need to wipe the gunk out from around the taps not just wipe the sink ... these women replace Mum's they're not wives they're surrogate mothers.

Same with emotional things they care for how the children feel if they're getting bullied, they patch up broader family issues, remind x they should phone y because Grandma died and they actually do want some comfort and would like to hear your voice, yes it would be good if you went to your nieces wedding.

They get tired and stressed with it all and feel like no one is there to support them emotionally. They feel like they're always giving out, managing things, not getting any relief.


I remind my female relatives to do stuff or pay bills lol
I’m guess the hedge and shirt doesn’t bother him but does bother her,so it’s more a her issue. I do my own laundry too and I’d gladly do my gf laundry if I had one. I assume could be done together unless Curtis. Clothes are special requirements like my work shirts. Though would women like me less for doing laundry as it’d bee seen as feminine.
I pack my own lunch I could pack her a sandwich. Maybe those women should date me instead:p


my husband did our laundry when he could navigate steps and does the dishes. i cook. we think our arrangement is fair. both parties feeling fairly treated goes a long way toward making a healthy relationship.


I could cook dinner for a gf most nights.

I won’t ever get to find out :(


my aspie nephew has had girlfriends he met via online gaming.



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13 Nov 2017, 6:09 pm

cathylynn wrote:
sly279 wrote:
cathylynn wrote:
sly279 wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
314pe wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
The article mentions emotional labour as well.

You mean that men invest less and women more emotionally in a relationship? Could you elaborate more what do you think about this?


My respective from what I've seen of unhappy couples I know is the woman feels like she's always the one sorting everything out and gets no support.

She's the one who keeps the wheels greased and things moving. She has to remind him to pay that bill, cut that hedge before we can't get through the gate anymore, remember your lunch, get a haircut, please wash that t-shirt it smells you can't wear it again, you need to wipe the gunk out from around the taps not just wipe the sink ... these women replace Mum's they're not wives they're surrogate mothers.

Same with emotional things they care for how the children feel if they're getting bullied, they patch up broader family issues, remind x they should phone y because Grandma died and they actually do want some comfort and would like to hear your voice, yes it would be good if you went to your nieces wedding.

They get tired and stressed with it all and feel like no one is there to support them emotionally. They feel like they're always giving out, managing things, not getting any relief.


I remind my female relatives to do stuff or pay bills lol
I’m guess the hedge and shirt doesn’t bother him but does bother her,so it’s more a her issue. I do my own laundry too and I’d gladly do my gf laundry if I had one. I assume could be done together unless Curtis. Clothes are special requirements like my work shirts. Though would women like me less for doing laundry as it’d bee seen as feminine.
I pack my own lunch I could pack her a sandwich. Maybe those women should date me instead:p


my husband did our laundry when he could navigate steps and does the dishes. i cook. we think our arrangement is fair. both parties feeling fairly treated goes a long way toward making a healthy relationship.


I could cook dinner for a gf most nights.

I won’t ever get to find out :(


my aspie nephew has had girlfriends he met via online gaming.

I’m guessing he’s good looking and well off(last part would have to be in order to travel to see said girls and pay for them to visit)

I’ve met two women on gaming
One lady is the one who said I’d be a good bf but need a better job so she can go on vacations to Hawaii

The other is a freshly 18 high schoo senior.



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13 Nov 2017, 6:34 pm

Closet Genious wrote:
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But honestly, it's me who 'struggle' more with monogamy, for example I like the idea of 2F1M threesome but my gf hates to share.


I'm the complete opposite. I'm extremely sexually exclusive, if my hypothetical girlfriend wanted an open relationship, I would end it immidiately.


(Whisper: it's not an attractive trait, they respond way better when they assume I am a playboy).


Oh I know that. I don't lie about it though, instead I avoid revealing too much, and give vague answers. Especially before I know what her opinions and values are, I don't want her to just mimic what I say to get me to like her.

That's a good strategy to get a girlfriend and a bad strategy to get the right girlfriend.

I find it's best to let the girl get to know the real you early on. If she doesn't like the real you, you can spare no time in moving on to the next girl.


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13 Nov 2017, 10:23 pm

hurtloam wrote:
314pe wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
The article mentions emotional labour as well.

You mean that men invest less and women more emotionally in a relationship? Could you elaborate more what do you think about this?


My respective from what I've seen of unhappy couples I know is the woman feels like she's always the one sorting everything out and gets no support.

She's the one who keeps the wheels greased and things moving. She has to remind him to pay that bill, cut that hedge before we can't get through the gate anymore, remember your lunch, get a haircut, please wash that t-shirt it smells you can't wear it again, you need to wipe the gunk out from around the taps not just wipe the sink ... these women replace Mum's they're not wives they're surrogate mothers.

Same with emotional things they care for how the children feel if they're getting bullied, they patch up broader family issues, remind x they should phone y because Grandma died and they actually do want some comfort and would like to hear your voice, yes it would be good if you went to your nieces wedding.

They get tired and stressed with it all and feel like no one is there to support them emotionally. They feel like they're always giving out, managing things, not getting any relief.


I agree with this, but women do seem better with social dyanamcs imo

When two families meet there is a very
common pattern.

The two.men split off and talk about shared hobbies and personal life events, the women stay with the youngest kid by their side while the older children play in sight.

The women talk about people and events and less commonly shared hobbies.

If the family wants to spend time together later, the men often go off in a pair, while its the women who arrange play dates and full-on get togethers.

I don't mean this in a sexist way but it does seem.men are less suited toward ths task but that doesn't mean its purely the woman's responsibility.

Im certainly not suited to it.



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14 Nov 2017, 7:19 pm

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I agree with this, but women do seem better with social dyanamcs imo
Yes and they have better theory of mind too! What's to stop women from taking unfair advantage of their superior brains? /sarcasm


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15 Nov 2017, 4:11 pm

sly279 wrote:
cathylynn wrote:
sly279 wrote:
cathylynn wrote:
sly279 wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
314pe wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
The article mentions emotional labour as well.

You mean that men invest less and women more emotionally in a relationship? Could you elaborate more what do you think about this?


My respective from what I've seen of unhappy couples I know is the woman feels like she's always the one sorting everything out and gets no support.

She's the one who keeps the wheels greased and things moving. She has to remind him to pay that bill, cut that hedge before we can't get through the gate anymore, remember your lunch, get a haircut, please wash that t-shirt it smells you can't wear it again, you need to wipe the gunk out from around the taps not just wipe the sink ... these women replace Mum's they're not wives they're surrogate mothers.

Same with emotional things they care for how the children feel if they're getting bullied, they patch up broader family issues, remind x they should phone y because Grandma died and they actually do want some comfort and would like to hear your voice, yes it would be good if you went to your nieces wedding.

They get tired and stressed with it all and feel like no one is there to support them emotionally. They feel like they're always giving out, managing things, not getting any relief.


I remind my female relatives to do stuff or pay bills lol
I’m guess the hedge and shirt doesn’t bother him but does bother her,so it’s more a her issue. I do my own laundry too and I’d gladly do my gf laundry if I had one. I assume could be done together unless Curtis. Clothes are special requirements like my work shirts. Though would women like me less for doing laundry as it’d bee seen as feminine.
I pack my own lunch I could pack her a sandwich. Maybe those women should date me instead:p


my husband did our laundry when he could navigate steps and does the dishes. i cook. we think our arrangement is fair. both parties feeling fairly treated goes a long way toward making a healthy relationship.


I could cook dinner for a gf most nights.

I won’t ever get to find out :(


my aspie nephew has had girlfriends he met via online gaming.

I’m guessing he’s good looking and well off(last part would have to be in order to travel to see said girls and pay for them to visit)

I’ve met two women on gaming
One lady is the one who said I’d be a good bf but need a better job so she can go on vacations to Hawaii

The other is a freshly 18 high schoo senior.


The one who wants the vacation seems like a gold digger to me. I'm glad that not all women are like that.


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15 Nov 2017, 4:16 pm

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Some women are quite monogamous, others want at least three men in bed at the same time.

Same with men, and three women.

I believe this is more common with men---but, really, it's the individual person that counts.


What could a woman possibly do with three men in the bed with her at the same time?


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15 Nov 2017, 5:22 pm

CockneyRebel wrote:
sly279 wrote:
cathylynn wrote:
sly279 wrote:
cathylynn wrote:
sly279 wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
314pe wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
The article mentions emotional labour as well.

You mean that men invest less and women more emotionally in a relationship? Could you elaborate more what do you think about this?


My respective from what I've seen of unhappy couples I know is the woman feels like she's always the one sorting everything out and gets no support.

She's the one who keeps the wheels greased and things moving. She has to remind him to pay that bill, cut that hedge before we can't get through the gate anymore, remember your lunch, get a haircut, please wash that t-shirt it smells you can't wear it again, you need to wipe the gunk out from around the taps not just wipe the sink ... these women replace Mum's they're not wives they're surrogate mothers.

Same with emotional things they care for how the children feel if they're getting bullied, they patch up broader family issues, remind x they should phone y because Grandma died and they actually do want some comfort and would like to hear your voice, yes it would be good if you went to your nieces wedding.

They get tired and stressed with it all and feel like no one is there to support them emotionally. They feel like they're always giving out, managing things, not getting any relief.


I remind my female relatives to do stuff or pay bills lol
I’m guess the hedge and shirt doesn’t bother him but does bother her,so it’s more a her issue. I do my own laundry too and I’d gladly do my gf laundry if I had one. I assume could be done together unless Curtis. Clothes are special requirements like my work shirts. Though would women like me less for doing laundry as it’d bee seen as feminine.
I pack my own lunch I could pack her a sandwich. Maybe those women should date me instead:p


my husband did our laundry when he could navigate steps and does the dishes. i cook. we think our arrangement is fair. both parties feeling fairly treated goes a long way toward making a healthy relationship.


I could cook dinner for a gf most nights.

I won’t ever get to find out :(


my aspie nephew has had girlfriends he met via online gaming.

I’m guessing he’s good looking and well off(last part would have to be in order to travel to see said girls and pay for them to visit)

I’ve met two women on gaming
One lady is the one who said I’d be a good bf but need a better job so she can go on vacations to Hawaii

The other is a freshly 18 high schoo senior.


The one who wants the vacation seems like a gold digger to me. I'm glad that not all women are like that.

I concur. That girl is a golddigger but not all are like her. Sly should ask the other girl out.


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15 Nov 2017, 5:24 pm

CockneyRebel wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Some women are quite monogamous, others want at least three men in bed at the same time.

Same with men, and three women.

I believe this is more common with men---but, really, it's the individual person that counts.


What could a woman possibly do with three men in the bed with her at the same time?

They could play Bridge.


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RetroGamer87 wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Closet Genious wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
But honestly, it's me who 'struggle' more with monogamy, for example I like the idea of 2F1M threesome but my gf hates to share.


I'm the complete opposite. I'm extremely sexually exclusive, if my hypothetical girlfriend wanted an open relationship, I would end it immidiately.


(Whisper: it's not an attractive trait, they respond way better when they assume I am a playboy).


Oh I know that. I don't lie about it though, instead I avoid revealing too much, and give vague answers. Especially before I know what her opinions and values are, I don't want her to just mimic what I say to get me to like her.

That's a good strategy to get a girlfriend and a bad strategy to get the right girlfriend.

I find it's best to let the girl get to know the real you early on. If she doesn't like the real you, you can spare no time in moving on to the next girl.

Precisely.


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16 Nov 2017, 4:43 am

^ BOring.



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^ BOring.

Sure, a stable relationship is so much more boring than reoccurring dramas and complex love-hate bonds with multiple partners. You are perfectly right.


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^ BOring.

Sure, a stable relationship is so much more boring than reoccurring dramas and complex love-hate bonds with multiple partners. You are perfectly right.

That's my kind of boredom.


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