Fascism/Communism not just horseshoe - they ARE the same!

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16 Aug 2017, 6:51 pm

Actually, you were pissing on people who are ideologically opposed to National Socialism. But, when has an alt-righter like yourself ever let facts get in the way of your narrative?



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16 Aug 2017, 6:57 pm

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Actually, you were pissing on people who are ideologically opposed to National Socialism. But, when has an alt-righter like yourself ever let facts get in the way of your narrative?

Sorry, I'm not looking to a bunch of black-masked meth heads to protect me.


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16 Aug 2017, 7:06 pm

Actually, meth use is a big issue for your precious snowflake Nazis who need nonstop police protection from the consequences of their actions.



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16 Aug 2017, 7:11 pm

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Actually, meth use is a big issue for your precious snowflake Nazis who need nonstop police protection from the consequences of their actions.

F%^& nazis too.


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16 Aug 2017, 7:32 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
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Actually, meth use is a big issue for your precious snowflake Nazis who need nonstop police protection from the consequences of their actions.

F%^& nazis too.


You say that in one breath, but then argue for protecting those precious snowflakes from their opponents in another. If people started walking down my street chanting about how much they wanted to kill all the fa***ts, I say they deserve to be punched. Is that really so hard to understand?

I am not a big fan of Antifa. But I am a big fan of punching Nazis. And why should anybody be against punching Nazis who are chanting words in favor of genocide? They are provoking it. Let then face the consequences of their actions. They are not snowflakes, they are grown men. They know what they are doing all too well. If they act like that on American soil, most Americans are going to want to smack them around. And for good reason. We cannot afford to be soft in the face of National Socialism.



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16 Aug 2017, 8:04 pm

Well, I've always felt that communism and fascism were, at least, VERY similar. If one goes-by what I feel was the original "plan" (or lie), for communism----commune, community, everybody being equal, owning equally, and so-forth----then, communism and fascism are very different; but, that's NOT, IMO, what communism turned-out to BE.

Communism, IMO, turned-out to be, very dictatorial----if one goes-by what we've heard so often, regarding the U.S.S.R and Cuba, for instance, being Communist countries, but interpreting their government's actions, as dictatorial----and, THAT, IMO, is fascism. (That's why I've never understood / agreed-with our country's Conservatives, being called fascists----because a REAL Conservative, IMO, would NEVER agree to a 100% dictatorial government!!)





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16 Aug 2017, 8:10 pm

KagamineLen wrote:
You say that in one breath, but then argue for protecting those precious snowflakes from their opponents in another. If people started walking down my street chanting about how much they wanted to kill all the fa***ts, I say they deserve to be punched. Is that really so hard to understand?

I am not a big fan of Antifa. But I am a big fan of punching Nazis. And why should anybody be against punching Nazis who are chanting words in favor of genocide? They are provoking it. Let then face the consequences of their actions. They are not snowflakes, they are grown men. They know what they are doing all too well. If they act like that on American soil, most Americans are going to want to smack them around. And for good reason. We cannot afford to be soft in the face of National Socialism.

All of the above makes me glad that people with as little self-control or grasp on societal dynamics as you're suggesting that you have aren't making the laws in the US or enforcing them. If most people believed what you said and took it seriously we'd be in the Hobbesian all-vs-all, ie. third world hellhole. That's where both the Nazis and Antifa offer to walk us off to if we root for one side or the other. They're freaks who validate each other's existence quite directly.


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16 Aug 2017, 8:18 pm

[quote="techstepgenr8tion"]Dinesh D'Souza w/ Stefan Molyneux

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Wow, that is exceptionally stupid.


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16 Aug 2017, 8:19 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
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You say that in one breath, but then argue for protecting those precious snowflakes from their opponents in another. If people started walking down my street chanting about how much they wanted to kill all the fa***ts, I say they deserve to be punched. Is that really so hard to understand?

I am not a big fan of Antifa. But I am a big fan of punching Nazis. And why should anybody be against punching Nazis who are chanting words in favor of genocide? They are provoking it. Let then face the consequences of their actions. They are not snowflakes, they are grown men. They know what they are doing all too well. If they act like that on American soil, most Americans are going to want to smack them around. And for good reason. We cannot afford to be soft in the face of National Socialism.

All of the above makes me glad that people with as little self-control or grasp on societal dynamics as you're suggesting that you have aren't making the laws in the US or enforcing them. If most people believed what you said and took it seriously we'd be in the Hobbesian all-vs-all, ie. third world hellhole. That's where both the Nazis and Antifa offer to walk us off to if we root for one side or the other. They're freaks who validate each other's existence quite directly.


People not fighting back initially resulted in the Holocaust.



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16 Aug 2017, 8:23 pm

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Actually they aren't the same. The fascists could only dream of killing as many people as the communists actually did.


And they both pale in comparison the Flu.

Your comment is equally pointless.

Institutional genocide is commited by authoritarians who pathologically seek power in any organization.


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16 Aug 2017, 8:35 pm

It is historical fact that when the American government tried to appease Hitler's Germany, it made things a hell of a lot easier for Hitler to do whatever he wished for a while.

Now you are saying we should appease the Nazis again by letting them march our streets. Hell, if Fuhrer Trump approves of it and it pisses off the liberals, why wouldn't you?

People like you who refuse to make a stand and insist that people who wish to see you dead have the right to a legitimate platform in America are the real cancer eating away at democracy.



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17 Aug 2017, 2:51 am

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In theory, they're not. In practice... you're actually kinda right. Communism should be a great system, if you go by its original meaning, but the way it usually works out, it ends up being a totalitarian nightmare, just like fascism. f**k totalitarianism in all its forms.


Communism might be a viable option when we have 100% automation and a huge surplus of food, energy, medicine and altruism.

So about when Hell freezes over.

There is no horseshoe. It's a sphere.



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17 Aug 2017, 3:20 am

adifferentname wrote:
mr_bigmouth_502 wrote:
In theory, they're not. In practice... you're actually kinda right. Communism should be a great system, if you go by its original meaning, but the way it usually works out, it ends up being a totalitarian nightmare, just like fascism. f**k totalitarianism in all its forms.


Communism might be a viable option when we have 100% automation and a huge surplus of food, energy, medicine and altruism.

So about when Hell freezes over.

Exactly.


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17 Aug 2017, 7:23 am

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Well, I've always felt that communism and fascism were, at least, VERY similar. If one goes-by what I feel was the original "plan" (or lie), for communism----commune, community, everybody being equal, owning equally, and so-forth----then, communism and fascism are very different; but, that's NOT, IMO, what communism turned-out to BE.

Communism, IMO, turned-out to be, very dictatorial----if one goes-by what we've heard so often, regarding the U.S.S.R and Cuba, for instance, being Communist countries, but interpreting their government's actions, as dictatorial----and, THAT, IMO, is fascism. (That's why I've never understood / agreed-with our country's Conservatives, being called fascists----because a REAL Conservative, IMO, would NEVER agree to a 100% dictatorial government!!)

Look at North Korea (or the Roman Empire). It is extremely costly to exist and operate necessarily as a dictatorial state. The founders of the United States had studied various civilizations before creating a nation which took the best from history while prohibiting or avoiding the worst.

So, when world leaders even hint at such things as friendly Communism or Fascism, I laugh. Anyone who believes that extremist states could function well needs to explain away such states in history and those like North Korea. Antony C. Sutton's research showed that world leaders wanted to design a kind of world order where the fascists would rule over international matters while communists would rule over nations and subordinate jurisdictions.

Think about it: Two different flavors of totalitarianism would act as a one-two punch in controlling individuals. Wealth would flow to the top while those at the bottom would be left celebrating their communistic festival of abject poverty. As far as this idea goes, Communism and Fascism work together intentionally, or have accidentally fallen backwards into some convenient partnerships, haven't they?


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17 Aug 2017, 9:16 am

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Well, I've always felt that communism and fascism were, at least, VERY similar. If one goes-by what I feel was the original "plan" (or lie), for communism----commune, community, everybody being equal, owning equally, and so-forth----then, communism and fascism are very different; but, that's NOT, IMO, what communism turned-out to BE.

Communism, IMO, turned-out to be, very dictatorial----if one goes-by what we've heard so often, regarding the U.S.S.R and Cuba, for instance, being Communist countries, but interpreting their government's actions, as dictatorial----and, THAT, IMO, is fascism. (That's why I've never understood / agreed-with our country's Conservatives, being called fascists----because a REAL Conservative, IMO, would NEVER agree to a 100% dictatorial government!!)

Look at North Korea (or the Roman Empire). It is extremely costly to exist and operate necessarily as a dictatorial state. The founders of the United States had studied various civilizations before creating a nation which took the best from history while prohibiting or avoiding the worst.

So, when world leaders even hint at such things as friendly Communism or Fascism, I laugh. Anyone who believes that extremist states could function well needs to explain away such states in history and those like North Korea. Antony C. Sutton's research showed that world leaders wanted to design a kind of world order where the fascists would rule over international matters while communists would rule over nations and subordinate jurisdictions.

Think about it: Two different flavors of totalitarianism would act as a one-two punch in controlling individuals. Wealth would flow to the top while those at the bottom would be left celebrating their communistic festival of abject poverty. As far as this idea goes, Communism and Fascism work together intentionally, or have accidentally fallen backwards into some convenient partnerships, haven't they?

Yep----EXACTLY----I, especially, agree with the last paragraph, and last sentence!!




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17 Aug 2017, 10:59 am

rick sanchez wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Dinesh D'Souza w/ Stefan Molyneux

[/quoWow

Wow, that is exceptionally stupid.



I only now made it through the whole thing. yes, it's impressively dumb.
First time I heard someone call hitler a bohemian.
First time I heard someone call the nazis "left", and libertarians/neo-cons "right". (btw. left-wing/right-wing is a nomenclature that is historical, describing the sides on which the factions were seated in the national assembly at times of the french revolution. left were the revolutionaries who wanted rule of the people, right the monarchists who wanted a divine leader. And that's how it stayed: progressives here, traditionalists there.)

edit: read a bit about D'Souza, and this is on his wikipedia:
D'Souza has argued the Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse scandal was a result of "the sexual immodesty of liberal America." He further asserted that the conditions of prisoners at Abu Ghraib "are comparable to the accommodations in mid-level Middle Eastern hotels." [53][54]

so... yeah, he's a nut-job, I guess, to whom I just listened for an hour. I keep forgetting that youtube is no different from just any street corner, where your average schizoid sits and drinks and rants all day.
The one I passed by yesterday, IRL, was shouting stuff about how the catholic church covers up child abuse- which one should think about more often, really.


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