How can I make it happen?

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I understand that there may be someone who disagrees with me about this, but anyway, even if you had your own car, job, house, a six pack, muscles, knew how to fight, and had plenty of friends, you can still have a hard time finding a girlfriend.

Of course not, there is no guaranteed way to get a girlfriend which is why these threads are so pointless, and their frequency baffling. However there are things you can do to make it easier and things that make it harder. If you "can't do" any of the former then just accept that it's going to be hard.

The thing is that I've gotten conflicting views on this. Some say you have to make the relationship start right off the bat or she will think you aren't interested but others say you need to be friends first or she will be scared of you. My older brother seemed to always have girlfriends instantly or atleast that is how it appeared to me. He once left home to go to the beach and came back with a girlfriend.

I find it's usually better to be "friends first."

The world needs more people like you ^^

Everybody has something going against them, something they have to overcome. There's really no point in being jealous of others; you may have no idea what their struggle is.

*runs away*

^^^^Please don't run away! You're a good sort of person.

We need more people like you

It sounds more natural to me. I've just heard as well as seen so many conflicting stories that it scrambles my mind.

I AGREE with Chichikov!! "Disappear", NO WAY----if anything, the list gets ADDED-TO, as we get older!! For instance, in addition to what's on LaurenLissa's list (which I have at the top of mine, as well), I have several other "non-negotiables" on mine, that I've added, over the years. Women are, generally speaking, IME, much more "okay" with not being "coupled" (especially, at MY age)----and, IMO, they are "okay" enough, that they don't / won't "settle", because they don't HAVE TO / feel a NEED to.

Why are women worth and so much better then men?

That's not how it is really. I think that's your perspective because you're attracted to women. We're really all just as flawed as each other.

To me women are mundane.

I feel like men are out of reach. I never even seem to make friends with me. I feel like men seem to think a bit much of themselves and won't deign to talk to women.

Yeah, I agree with this----and, most women, generally speaking, are "nothin' special", to me either.

Again, IMO, it just seems like men "need" women, more than women need men----and, it seems, IMO, that it gets more-so, that way, with each generation. Not ALL women/generations, are like that----for instance, my two older sisters (my generation, of course), were/are fairly needy, and one of my nieces is on her 3rd marriage, and she's only 25; but.....

With me, if a relationship comes-along, that's fine----if one doesn't, that's fine, too.

You've just described how I've come to believe most women, young and old, see relationships.

It really seems, generally, women see relationships as an addition to their life while men generally see it as an essential part of life.

And its very difficult/impossible to convince someone the opposite point of view.

As I've repeated plenty of time the dating advice "A relationship won't make you happy" is most commonly said by women, for women.

Meant more like women all seem to have the universal list of requirements while most men don't care about if a woman works, has her own place, or owns a car. If you compare women's profiles and ads to men's is quite different. So women seem. To believe their better then men thus men must be _____ good before they can allowed to date them. A bunch of those women will end up alone eventually as real men die or pair up. There's way way less real men then women. Lots of men have crappy min wage jobs or no job. I wish women wouldn't see me as inferior worthless trash

Us men are actually very shy when it comes to talking to women. I am shy, because I'm afraid I may sound like an idiot, or like a kid in front of women, or I may sound offensive. I feel like I have to put on a 28 year old party goer hat on to talk to women. When it comes to men talking to other men, we get to say fart jokes and talk nonstop about sports and video games.

Bottom line, we run out of things to say, and we're shy.

And no, we don't think too much about ourselves, and we wish we could include you and we wish we could find something that makes us both happy, even though it is a struggle.

No worries, you'll find a man someday Hurtloam, alright.

Because men are expected to protect and provide, and women to raise and nurture young.

These are our natural roles and almost all human behavior is driven by two basic instincts: survival and reproduction.

If we don't survive we won't be able to reproduce, and if we reproduce we need to survive to care for the young.

Lol I still see what you mean Sly.

In theory a woman who can take care of herself would be Better at taking care of children.

I'm not saying poor people are bad parents, Rich families can have bad parents and poor families good, but a woman with a high paying job, her own big house, a good car can take care of her child better than a poor, drug addicted, mentally unhealthy, jobless high school dropout yet both still get boyfriends and both Still have kids.

Us men probably SHOULD care about that stuff more because a woman who can't even take care of herself has no business raising our offspring, but in my experiences we just don't or care less, probably a biological instinct for US to be the one who does all that, to be the provider of shelter, money, transport, food and clothes.

The rest is just culture. In some cultures a man licing at home to care fpr his family, parents and little bros and sisters is a good thing in others its a bad.

Keep in mind even if you don't want kids like me and a woman doesnt our bodies still do so it affects how attracted we are to people

The reason women tell other women that they don't need men is because they are sick of seeing their friends get hurt or they are sick of getting hurt. It's less painful to be self sufficient.

Or they end up with someone lazy who won't help out and the woman ends up running round after him in addition to everything she has to do for herself. Its easier to be on your own and only pick up after yourself.

Men and women just seem so incompatible sometimes.