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31 Aug 2017, 12:21 pm

Oil Companies and local gas stations are using Harvey as an excuse to raise prices.


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31 Aug 2017, 12:42 pm

We didn't flood or lose power. However, my aunt had 2 inches of water in her house, and a cousin had 4 inches in hers.

The grocery stores are open at limited hours, and at the HEB by my house, it felt like Venezuela--lots of empty aisles. But plenty of wine and ice cream!

Many of the restaurants are opening, but with limited hours and menus. Gas is still hard to come by.

@kraftie: We had underground lines installed just a few weeks ago. Crosby is an hour away, so we weren't affected much by the chemical plant fire there. Western parts of Houston were affected the worst, especially in Fort Bend County.


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31 Aug 2017, 12:59 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
We didn't flood or lose power. However, my aunt had 2 inches of water in her house, and a cousin had 4 inches in hers.

The grocery stores are open at limited hours, and at the HEB by my house, it felt like Venezuela--lots of empty aisles. But plenty of wine and ice cream!

Many of the restaurants are opening, but with limited hours and menus. Gas is still hard to come by.

@kraftie: We had underground lines installed just a few weeks ago. Crosby is an hour away, so we weren't affected much by the chemical plant fire there. Western parts of Houston were affected the worst, especially in Fort Bend County.


Glad to see you survived the storm with no damage, consider yourself very lucky. The next year or two could be worse for the community than the actual storm so be mentally prepared for it: there's a few million people that will be in shock, grieving, and upset over lost property, lost jobs, and of course lost loved ones.



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31 Aug 2017, 8:18 pm

I live in Dallas. A lot of people have come here to escape the storm. There have been a lot of donations and people trying to volunteer to help so that is good. There is a place close to where I live where about 350 people are staying. They are turning away donations and volunteers because they have gotten so many. I don't know if the people who are still there now have the means to leave, but it is good to see other cities make sure our people are taken care of.



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31 Aug 2017, 9:08 pm

Aristophanes wrote:
The next year or two could be worse for the community than the actual storm ...

Related to that, though not exactly that;
Railroads Warn Harvey May Cause Long Closure of Houston Tracks
Aug. 30, 2017, at 12:32 p.m.
https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2017-08-30/railroads-warn-of-long-closure-of-houston-area-tracks
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The closure of rail lines in the grain transport hub and nexus for cross-border traffic with Mexico presents a costly headache for companies ranging from automakers to farmers which use the lines to send ethanol, cereals and auto parts to and from Mexico or to be loaded onto ships.

The top two U.S. railroads, Union Pacific Corp and Berkshire Hathaway Inc's BNSF Railway have suspended operations in the area affected by the storm, as has regional railroad Kansas City Southern.
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"We don't have a historical precedent with this one," said Thomas Williamson, owner of Florida-based rail broker Transportation Consultants Co. "I expect service to be disrupted anywhere from two to six weeks."
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Union Pacific, the No. 1 U.S. railroad, told customers on Wednesday that it is using helicopters and drones to inspect track and facilities in areas without road access.But the company warned that the "majority of areas east of Houston are still inaccessible at this time." Union Pacific has been re-routing traffic away from Houston.
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Kansas City Southern, with much of its business focused U.S.-Mexico trade, may have greater exposure to disruption caused by the storm than the other two railroads, said Cowen & Co analyst Jason Seidl in a client note. Kansas Southern said in its last update on Monday that it had stopped traffic through impacted areas. It said it will update customers as the situation develops.
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Once the rails are up and running, railroad operators will likely benefit as goods for recovery and rebuilding are sent to the region, said independent railroad analyst Anthony Hatch. "We can be sure that the rails will be quicker to recover than most as they have been through this before."


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01 Sep 2017, 5:55 am

Motiva, the largest oil refinery in the United States, is shutting down due to the devastating floods in Port Arthur.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/hurricane-harvey-port-arthur-residents-remain-stranded-homes/story?id=49534477


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01 Sep 2017, 6:53 am

Oh My Gosh. "and one million displaced"
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-storm-harvey/a-week-after-harvey-cities-deluged-and-one-million-displaced-idUSKCN1B7083

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A week after Harvey, cities deluged and one million displaced
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PORT ARTHUR, Texas (Reuters) - A week after Hurricane Harvey came ashore in Texas, no let-up in rescue efforts was expected on Friday as large pockets of land remained under water after one of the costliest natural disasters to hit the United States.

The storm has displaced over a million people, with 44 feared dead from flooding that paralyzed Houston, swelled river levels to record highs and knocked out the drinking water supply in Beaumont, Texas, a city of about 120,000 people.


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01 Sep 2017, 7:55 am

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U.S. fuel shortages from Harvey to hamper Labor Day travel
Devika Krishna Kumar, Jarrett Renshaw
August 31, 2017 / 6:59 PM / 12 hours ago

Supply shortages have developed even though there are nearly a quarter of a billion barrels of gasoline stockpiled in the United States. But much of it is held in places where it cannot be accessed due to massive floods, or too far away from the places it is needed. Some of it is unfinished, meaning it needs to be blended before it can go to gas stations.

Harvey has highlighted another weakness in the system: pipeline terminals typically only have a five-day supply in storage to load into the lines.

Some of the biggest pipelines in the United States, supplying the northeast market and the Chicago area, have already shut down or reduced operations because they have no fuel to pump.

“Gasoline is very much a ‘just-in-time’ fuel, for as many million barrels as they think we have,” said Patrick DeHaan, petroleum analyst at GasBuddy. “Sure, they are somewhere, but they still have to be mixed and blended together.”

At least two East Coast refiners, including Philadelphia Energy Solutions and Irving Oil, have already run out of gasoline for immediate delivery as they have rushed to send supplies to the U.S. Southeast, Caribbean, Mexico and South America to offset the lack of exports since Harvey, sources said.

Wholesale gasoline and jet fuel prices have soared as at least 4.4 million barrels per day of refining capacity, or nearly 24 percent of total U.S. capacity, has been closed due to the record rains.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-storm-harvey-fuel-shortage/u-s-fuel-shortages-from-harvey-to-hamper-labor-day-travel-idUSKCN1BB3BJ


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01 Sep 2017, 9:12 am

Due to the drainage problems -- many man-made -- this could take weeks to resolve, even with virtually unlimited money.


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01 Sep 2017, 9:45 am

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01 Sep 2017, 10:04 am

Also, soils in the area are mostly clay-based, and not very porous at all. The Addicks and Barker reservoirs were built in the 1930s, and not upgraded or replaced to better accommodate the rapid development that's happened since then.


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01 Sep 2017, 10:06 am

Tim_Tex wrote:
Also, soils in the area are mostly clay-based, and not very porous at all.
Oh boy. I grew up mostly living in the red clay Piedmont region of Georgia. Even in the ground that clay was halfway to being as absorbent as bricks.


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