10 Sep 2017, 4:57 pm
funeralxempire wrote:
Raptor wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Raptor wrote:
It's more the reason for their removal than anything, and that reason is they (those who are the driving force) are pissed off at Trump and his voters. It's no use trying to get me to believe that after all these years these these statues are suddenly an urgent issue. I smell sour loser all over it.
People need to face up to the fact their girl Hilary lost to Donald J.
People need to face up to the fact their girl Hilary lost to Donald J.
The far-right keeps coming back to this, it seems as though they might be the ones obsessed with $hillary. You don't hear too many folks on the left who are enthusiastic for her, just a few centrists and media hacks.
Most of the Trump voters weren't and still arent too enthusiastic about him either but by listening to the cawing of the left you'd think anyone that voted for him is a dyed in the wool jackbooted Nazi or KKK grand dragon (or whatever)
Of course, I've become fond of being the left's villain so I actually enjoy all the labels.
That's actually quite fair and more than a little frustrating. Not every Trump voter is/was a Trump supporter (and not all Trump supporters fall into the nationalist camp, let alone the white nationalist/white supremacist camp), many of them just voted for the least horrible looking s**t sandwich, just like many $hillary voters.
It also leads to another frustrating aspect with politics these days, it seems as though many people can't conceive that their opponents sincerely believe in the positions they espouse so they insist they're either trolling or paid and use that to excuse their own tendencies to troll their opponents. Back-and-forth it goes leaving more and more of us convinced the opposition just believes what they believe in order to antagonize us. It's also possible that establishment politicians and some in the media (both mainstream and beyond) like to take advantage of this by keeping the attention on relatively trivial issues that have a strong partisan split to keep partisans who might agree on some issues distracted from where they agree and focused on less important issues (meanwhile the establishment politicians advance their shared agenda).
I'm both cynical and pragmatic.
Politicians are dirtbags and the ones that arent will be, given enough time in office. Power corrupts.
I don't listen to campaign speeches or debates and think that anyone that takes to heart any election campaign promise also believes in Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny.
My biggest concern over Trump was actually that he wasn't a politician. I know that sounds contradictory to what I said, but with a candidate that's held office you can at least look at thier record to see how they've voted on the issues and which bills they've introduced. Their past record in office is as close to the proverbial acid test as we can get.
With Trump we were getting a pig in a poke, but with Hillary we were getting someone who should be in a federal pen and is generally a b***h. The b***h thing goes back to her sh***y treatment of secret service agents as first lady. So much for championing the working class, eh...
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