Which commandments do you think are superior; Yahweh’s or Gn

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I use it for effect, the original idea is credited to two scientists philosophers monsters? (I should point out they were talking about severe developmental abnormalities - but if abortion is justified for any other reason... you might ask why not):

http://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2012/0 ... 00411.full

Edit: strike that, they are even considering when the newborn is not disabled:



Emphasis mine.

Hey, something we agree on

You speak of "nature" as though it had a mind. Nature, and the mistakenly-labelled "natural selection", doesn't get to decide anything. Decisions are only ever made by conscious agents. "Less fit" means... ? What, in your view? Whenever I think of "fitness" within the realm of biology, I understand it to mean that an individual or species is well adapted for the environmental niche that it just happens to find itself in. That's what it really means in the Darwinian sense, and has little, if anything, to do with physical strength (as is popularly believed).

I equate justice with fairness; what people receive is proportional to what they deserve,

which results in a situation where disadvantage and privilege become non-existent.

Justice, like energy and momentum, is conserved. That's the simplest way to put it.

You don't understand faith.

Faith isn't a blind acceptance of a belief in the absence of evidence, or (worse) an acceptance of a belief in spite of the evidence, but an admission of one's inability to truly understand the true nature of reality and thus coming to a decision to live one's life based upon a certain premise. For example, the belief in an objective reality that somehow exists "out there" isn't something that can be demonstrated scientifically, has no proof, no evidence, and not even a good philosophical argument in its favour. Even so, most of us accept the notion. Why? Simply because it makes practical sense to do so.

Listen to the words of the Great Mother, who was of old also called Artemis; Astarte; Diana; Melusine; Aphrodite; Cerridwen; Dana; Arianrhod; Isis; Bride; and by many other names.

Whenever ye have need of anything, once in a month, and better it be when the Moon be full, then ye shall assemble in some secret place and adore the spirit of me, who am Queen of all Witcheries.

There shall ye assemble, ye who are fain to learn all sorcery, yet have not yet won its deepest secrets: to these will I teach things that are yet unknown.

And ye shall be free from slavery; and as a sign that ye are really free, ye shall be naked in your rites; and ye shall dance, sing, feast, make music and love, all in my praise.

For mine is the ecstasy of the spirit and mine also is joy on earth; for my Law is Love unto all Beings.

Keep pure your highest ideal; strive ever toward it; let naught stop you or turn you aside.

For mine is the secret door which opens upon the Land of Youth; and mine is the Cup of the Wine of Life, and the Cauldron of Cerridwen, which is the Holy Grail of Immortality.

I am the Gracious Goddess, who gives the gift of joy unto the heart. Upon earth, I give the knowledge of the spirit eternal; and beyond death, I give peace, and freedom, and reunion with those who have gone before. Nor do I demand sacrifice, for behold I am the Mother of All Living, and my love is poured out upon the earth.

Hear ye the words of the Star Goddess, she in the dust of whose feet are the hosts of heaven; whose body encircleth the Universe; I, who am the beauty of the green earth, and the white Moon among the stars, and the mystery of the waters, and the heart’s desire, call unto thy soul. Arise and come unto me.

For I am the Soul of Nature, who giveth life to the universe; from me all things proceed, and unto me must all things return; and before my face, beloved of gods and mortals, thine inmost divine self shall be unfolded in the rapture of infinite joy.

Let my worship be within the heart that rejoiceth, for behold: all acts of love and pleasure are my rituals. And therefore let there be beauty and strength, power and compassion, honour and humility, mirth and reverence within you.

And thou who thinkest to seek for me, know thy seeking and yearning shall avail thee not, unless thou know this mystery: that if that which thou seekest thou findest not within thee, thou wilt never find it without thee.

For behold, I have been with thee from the beginning; and I am that which is attained at the end of desire.

I prefer the Charge of the Goddess

You speak of "nature" as though it had a mind. Nature, and the mistakenly-labelled "natural selection", doesn't get to decide anything. Decisions are only ever made by conscious agents. "Less fit" means... ? What, in your view? Whenever I think of "fitness" within the realm of biology, I understand it to mean that an individual or species is well adapted for the environmental niche that it just happens to find itself in. That's what it really means in the Darwinian sense, and has little, if anything, to do with physical strength (as is popularly believed).

Well, I am not going to argue for Darwin's position against you. If you want to deny evolution and natural selection, I will let you live with that. I will stick with Darwin.

Do you think Hitler got what he deserved for his genocide of the Jews?

Do you think Yahweh got what he deserved for the genocide of man?

So in one fell swoop, you would destroy man's hierarchical demographic pyramid which nature has maintained forever. Ok.

You do know that the flat communistic type of demography you envisage has never been shown to work. Right?

Tell that to a court of law.

I must say, compared to some of the other answers you have given that showed intelligence, this reply is showing a lack of thought.

Yes I do. Faith is basically saying that you do not want to know the truth and will settle for lies.

???

No proof of an objective reality?

No proof of an objective reality?

Go stand in the street and ignore the car coming at you and pretend it is subjective. Let us know after you are run over whether the objective proof your eyes saw just before you got run over was real or not.

Regards
DL