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21 Sep 2017, 8:16 pm

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I usually agree more with the right than the people on the left, even though I safely say that I hate both Republicans and Democrats. I know you walk with pride as an "anti-corporate" leftist thinker, are you registered with a party or are you independent?


Independent

I follow principles, not a party.

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But I'm losing even more respect for the democrats than I ever had. It seems like the democrats are becoming more similar to a dangerous cult than a movement that should be treated seriously. It even seems that those on the left who are otherwise independent or third party don't have enough credibility to support them wholesale as candidates.


Bernie Sanders has been an active leftist for most of his life. He's also the most popular politician in America. It's only a matter of time.

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I'm sorry, I know that the left doesn't want or hates Trump. But still realize that the way a lot on the left are reacting and also calling for his forced removal/impeachment is naive immaturity in the very least.


Yeah. Removing Trump is a bit of a longshot. I still think it's worth a try.

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How can you honestly believe your opponent (or "enemy" may be more appropriate) is a name-calling, immature monster idiot, when a lot of supporters on your side are similar?


Most of the loonies on the left are at least trying to fight for equality. Additionally, most lefties aren't putting the fate of the earth in jeopardy.

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But, to be fair with what OP said, Trump's political career is no more than <8 years from being over. The political longevity of Hillary is by her days in local and state office. Trump is only a few, if any, he's the one who didn't really do the leg work. The man was already an "elite" background mogul and TV host in years past.


They're both corporate shills.

Yes, Clinton isn't as bad a Trump. She's still awful.


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21 Sep 2017, 8:25 pm

in our rotten political system, "isn't as bad" counts for a LOT. :o



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21 Sep 2017, 8:41 pm

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in our rotten political system, "isn't as bad" counts for a LOT. :o

Auntblabby, with all due respect, could you please stop missing the point?

I didn't even make this thread to compare Clinton and Trump. I primarily made this thread to compare Clinton and Sanders.

Clinton's retirement is a good thing. It's good because plenty of American politicians are more progressive than she is. Hopefully, her replacement will be a real liberal.

I'm glad that people voted for Clinton when Trump was the only realistic alternative. That era is over now.

Bernie is a candidate who is actually good. He is going to run in 2020. We need to ensure that he wins. That's our task at the moment.

The 2016 election is over. It's time to move on and prepare for the next one, because we've got a LOT of work to do.


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21 Sep 2017, 10:25 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
in our rotten political system, "isn't as bad" counts for a LOT. :o

Auntblabby, with all due respect, could you please stop missing the point?

I didn't even make this thread to compare Clinton and Trump. I primarily made this thread to compare Clinton and Sanders.

Clinton's retirement is a good thing. It's good because plenty of American politicians are more progressive than she is. Hopefully, her replacement will be a real liberal.

I'm glad that people voted for Clinton when Trump was the only realistic alternative. That era is over now.

Bernie is a candidate who is actually good. He is going to run in 2020. We need to ensure that he wins. That's our task at the moment.

The 2016 election is over. It's time to move on and prepare for the next one, because we've got a LOT of work to do.


Okay, well thanks for clarifying your OP DarthMetaKnight :)

Now I understand what you're saying. I wouldn't "let" (read: recommend) anyone gamble on Bernie Sanders as a candidate. Even if you could get some of us who lean more on the right or even middle-of-the-road voters who are still more liberal on some issues, to get behind supporting a democrat or liberal candidate (not for me at this point in a million years, despite the pain of your objection), I can't stand behind supporting a candidate who is knocking on the door to their 80's. So he shouldn't be a "good" candidate at all, whether you support his platform ideology or not.



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21 Sep 2017, 10:42 pm

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I can't stand behind supporting a candidate who is knocking on the door to their 80's. So he shouldn't be a "good" candidate at all, whether you support his platform ideology or not.


Sanders will have no difficulty finding a competent vice president. There are plenty of other people who agree with Sanders on nearly every issue.

If Sanders dies in office, he'll doubtlessly have a younger replacement.


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22 Sep 2017, 12:00 am

Good news! Clinton finally said something right!


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22 Sep 2017, 10:46 am

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It's not even a prediction anymore! She's thrown in the towel!

It's time for a musical celebration!

Let the era of Bernie commence! We can't let another corporate "liberal" take over!
Perhaps we will need to wait until 2024. Perhaps Trump will get impeached before then. Either way, our time to work for the future is now. Our time to wake people up is now.

I'm not just talking about American liberals. This shall be a global effort, since the American military-industrial complex is ruining the entire world.

"The working men have no country. We cannot take away from them what they have not got. "


Like in the Wizard of Oz --- Ding Dong, the Witch is dead, the wicked Witch is dead....


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22 Sep 2017, 10:59 am

I'd rather have an eighty year old man that was competent in charge of the country than a fifty year old dumb ass.
If a person is dumb as a box of rocks at fifty,it's just not going to get any better.Where I live has a large population of elderly.I've seen plenty of octogenarians still sharp of mind.
Ageism,funny how the young don't like to be judged on their lack of life experience,but they are willing to assume all elderly people are senile and incontinent.


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