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12 Sep 2017, 12:01 am

It's not even a prediction anymore! She's thrown in the towel!

It's time for a musical celebration!

Let the era of Bernie commence! We can't let another corporate "liberal" take over!
Perhaps we will need to wait until 2024. Perhaps Trump will get impeached before then. Either way, our time to work for the future is now. Our time to wake people up is now.

I'm not just talking about American liberals. This shall be a global effort, since the American military-industrial complex is ruining the entire world.

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12 Sep 2017, 12:16 am

nobody can convince me that she was worse than the orange-haired menace we have now.



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12 Sep 2017, 12:25 am

auntblabby wrote:
nobody can convince me that she was worse than the orange-haired menace we have now.


She isn't worse than Trump.
She just isn't the progressive that American needs.


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12 Sep 2017, 1:08 am

politics is the art of the possible, not the optimal. I think it was Woodrow Wilson who said [paraphrasing] that an electorate can reach beyond the mundane, only once every third generation, or so.



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12 Sep 2017, 1:19 am

Clinton and Sanders are out of the picture. No one is going to vote for a guy who will be 79 years old in 2020 (if he lives that long). Plus he wouldn't even be your leader anyways. Time to let go and move on.



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12 Sep 2017, 2:06 am

"letting go and moving on" does NOT mean I will EVER vote for a right-wing troglodyte.



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12 Sep 2017, 3:23 am

EzraS wrote:
Clinton and Sanders are out of the picture. No one is going to vote for a guy who will be 79 years old in 2020 (if he lives that long). Plus he wouldn't even be your leader anyways. Time to let go and move on.

Right.

Soon it's memory lapses and adult diapers for those two.



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12 Sep 2017, 4:53 am

auntblabby wrote:
"letting go and moving on" does NOT mean I will EVER vote for a right-wing troglodyte.


Nor would I. But when it comes to Hillary and Bernie, they're toast, it's over with.



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12 Sep 2017, 5:01 am

LoveNotHate wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Clinton and Sanders are out of the picture. No one is going to vote for a guy who will be 79 years old in 2020 (if he lives that long). Plus he wouldn't even be your leader anyways. Time to let go and move on.

Right.

Soon it's memory lapses and adult diapers for those two.


Who knows. I don't think people are willing to take the gamble. Especially on someone going into their 80's. Either might be sharp as a tack and in great health into their 90's. But that's the exception rather than the rule.



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12 Sep 2017, 10:23 am

auntblabby wrote:
politics is the art of the possible, not the optimal.


Why shouldn't we aim for the optimal? We might be stuck with Trump for quite a while. If we are stuck with Trump until 2020/2024, this is the perfect time to radicalize the American left. If another corporate "liberal" becomes the leader of the Democratic Party, the cycle of death and destruction will continue.

Plus, Bernie is already very popular in America. Here's our chance! We should take it!

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I think it was Woodrow Wilson who said [paraphrasing] that an electorate can reach beyond the mundane, only once every third generation, or so.


Oh ... is that so?

In that case, we are overdue for a change. Remember: The elites want political stagnation. When society moves forward, it is usually the result of populist outcry. Watch the documentary "Hypernormalization" by Adam Curtis. America has been in a state of political stasis for several decades. While you're at it, you should watch everything else by Adam Curtis since he is a genius.

Both Obama and Trump got elected because they promised to shake up the system. Obama just repeated the words "Hope" and "Change" and people loved it! They loved it because they wanted change. Trump won because he, again, seemed like someone who would make stuff change. The people want change!

Nether of them ended up making significant changes because they were bought out by the corporate elites. With Obama, this was a tragedy, since the guy dabbled in Marxism when he was a lad. With Trump ... well ... we should have seen that coming, since he practically advertises himself as a real-world Scrooge McDuck.

In other words, America's state of political stasis is, arguably, continuing under Trump. He is just using foul language in order to make himself look like a rebel.

When Trump got elected, Return of Kings (a notorious far-right, pro-Trump website) made an article entitled "How the Media Could Have Stopped Trump". The article basically said "The liberal media should have accused Trump of being a typical politician posing as a maverick." I agree with RoK on this one, except that the "liberal" media had no reason to call Trump a poser. That would have broken up their pro-corporate narrative. The "liberal" media is run by rich people who didn't really have anything at stake during that last election. MSNBC and CNN are not really scared of Trump. Those networks are controlled by rich bastards who aren't really suffering as a result of the Trump presidency. Bernie was a threat to them though. That's why the "liberal" media drew attention away from him and acted as though Clinton's victory was inevitable.

Meanwhile, Noam Chomsky was saying "The other Republican candidates are not that different from Trump." even before Trump won the nomination. Stay woke Chomsky! 8)

America will vote for a social democrat once they realize that Trump is a false maverick. We are still in the period of hypernormalization. Bernie is the cure.

We can move forward every 3 generations? I'm pretty sure that our state of political stagnation has been going since the end of WW2. Our time is coming.


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12 Sep 2017, 7:17 pm

Liberals: Listen to this.
Conservatives: Whatever. You've already made up your minds. Disregard this whole thread. It isn't for you. Go browse r/tumblrinaction or something.


Everyone say it with me: "Donald Trump will be the last non-crowdfunded president of the United States!"

From now on, only crowdfunded political candidates are worthy of our trust. Corporate-funded liberals always cease to be liberal the second they accept corporate funding. This explains why the Bill Clinton presidency and the Barack Obama presidency were both embarrassing disasters for the left. We put our trust in those men and they betrayed us both times.

Crowdfunding is the key to our political woes. It's like a political master key.


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12 Sep 2017, 7:55 pm

She should have done that before screwing over Bernie...


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12 Sep 2017, 8:30 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
She should have done that before screwing over Bernie...

Well ... she seriously thought that she was going to win ... since was and still is out of touch.

The American people want populism. That should be blindingly obvious to absolutely everyone. Bernie offered real populism, which is why Clinton had to resort to dirty tricks in order to take him down. Trump offered false populism, which is why he is the president.

Clinton is less popular than Trump, because she offered neither. All she had was a "more feminist than thou" attitude, one that was not reinforced with actual feminism.


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12 Sep 2017, 10:58 pm

Update: The "liberal" elites have already chosen their new representative. Kamala Harris is the new empty shell that they will fill with corporate sponsorships and imperialist bloodthirst. As we speak, they are training her to spout 70s-tier feminist slogans that contain no substance and became cliché over a decade ago.



America, please don't let this happen again. The fate of the world is literally at stake here. This is in your hands. Don't let the killing continue.

Peace out.

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13 Sep 2017, 9:31 pm

Clinton's career is over, and yet she still won't stop whining about how MEEEEEEEEAN the "Bernie bros" were. Why should America have a president who can't even handle mean internet comments? :lol:

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21 Sep 2017, 7:15 pm

DarthMetaKnight wrote:

Oh ... is that so?

In that case, we are overdue for a change. Remember: The elites want political stagnation. When society moves forward, it is usually the result of populist outcry. Watch the documentary "Hypernormalization" by Adam Curtis. America has been in a state of political stasis for several decades. While you're at it, you should watch everything else by Adam Curtis since he is a genius.

Both Obama and Trump got elected because they promised to shake up the system. Obama just repeated the words "Hope" and "Change" and people loved it! They loved it because they wanted change. Trump won because he, again, seemed like someone who would make stuff change. The people want change!

Nether of them ended up making significant changes because they were bought out by the corporate elites. With Obama, this was a tragedy, since the guy dabbled in Marxism when he was a lad. With Trump ... well ... we should have seen that coming, since he practically advertises himself as a real-world Scrooge McDuck.

In other words, America's state of political stasis is, arguably, continuing under Trump. He is just using foul language in order to make himself look like a rebel.

When Trump got elected, Return of Kings (a notorious far-right, pro-Trump website) made an article entitled "How the Media Could Have Stopped Trump". The article basically said "The liberal media should have accused Trump of being a typical politician posing as a maverick." I agree with RoK on this one, except that the "liberal" media had no reason to call Trump a poser. That would have broken up their pro-corporate narrative. The "liberal" media is run by rich people who didn't really have anything at stake during that last election. MSNBC and CNN are not really scared of Trump. Those networks are controlled by rich bastards who aren't really suffering as a result of the Trump presidency. Bernie was a threat to them though. That's why the "liberal" media drew attention away from him and acted as though Clinton's victory was inevitable.

Meanwhile, Noam Chomsky was saying "The other Republican candidates are not that different from Trump." even before Trump won the nomination. Stay woke Chomsky! 8)

America will vote for a social democrat once they realize that Trump is a false maverick. We are still in the period of hypernormalization. Bernie is the cure.

We can move forward every 3 generations? I'm pretty sure that our state of political stagnation has been going since the end of WW2. Our time is coming.


I usually agree more with the right than the people on the left, even though I safely say that I hate both Republicans and Democrats. I know you walk with pride as an "anti-corporate" leftist thinker, are you registered with a party or are you independent? Sigh, I guess you don't really need to like major large corporations to support free enterprise, though.

But I'm losing even more respect for the democrats than I ever had. It seems like the democrats are becoming more similar to a dangerous cult than a movement that should be treated seriously. It even seems that those on the left who are otherwise independent or third party don't have enough credibility to support them wholesale as candidates. I'm sorry, I know that the left doesn't want or hates Trump. But still realize that the way a lot on the left are reacting and also calling for his forced removal/impeachment is naive immaturity in the very least. How can you honestly believe your opponent (or "enemy" may be more appropriate) is a name-calling, immature monster idiot, when a lot of supporters on your side are similar?

But, to be fair with what OP said, Trump's political career is no more than <8 years from being over. The political longevity of Hillary is by her days in local and state office. Trump is only a few, if any, he's the one who didn't really do the leg work. The man was already an "elite" background mogul and TV host in years past.