China Banning Non-Electric Cars

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Good. When is America going to ban non-electric cars?

For one, I can't get the range or power I need with electric cars.

Two, freedom and s**t...

Freedom has limits. Conservatives should know this.

First of all, the American south is being battered by tropical cyclones.

Second, the conservatives have been trying to restrict the freedoms of women and minorities since ... well ... forever.

When are you going to personally design and build the infrastructure to support that, especially out here in wide open and far apart farm country where we grow the food you eat, and when are you going to buy me an electric car since disability keeps me below the poverty level?

Oh, and China has issues,
(What? You claim China has issues? Yer lyin through yer teeth!)

http://www.scmp.com/week-asia/opinion/article/2108353/beijings-grand-plan-electric-cars-looks-good-under-bonnet

I don't see your point here, only a damn good reason why I don't want a electric car when the power grid goes down. Also why I enjoy the ground clearance my 4x4 offers... I can still get around after the storm, as I been.




What does this nonsense have to do with electric cars? BTW, I'm not a conservative


This... For a good portion of American's an electric car is not a viable option. For some, who can afford it and want to take advantage of tax incentives (only real reason to get one) makes it a good option. In reality, most commuters can't afford a late model car or the installation of a charger at home (assuming they own a home, if they rent it's most likely not happening).

Something I've looked for now and again for several years is an answer to what effect on electric car range would it have to run an air conditioner out here on 95F to 105 or more F, July, August, and September, midwest farmland summer days?

I've driven a Telsa Model S for more miles then I care to admit, but AC didn't affect range very much. Maybe 5-10 miles and I am from Florida, so I always turned it on when I got in... But kicking the heater on during a cold front, was really noticeable; easily a 40-50 mile lost in range.

The biggest issue is deprecation on a electric cars, it's terrible.

I see envy here.
"I can't afford a car so I don't want anyone else to have one".

Then there's the liberal compulsion to ban everything.
Yes, those freedom loving liberals...

that's dumb.

first off i don't see anything that makes their claim or "plan" anything more than a pledge...and pledges really don't mean anything, do they even have a date/deadline set in mind? i can definitely see them pushing whatever deadline they'll hopefully have further and further back as they approach it.

hopefully never, while at the moment electric cars themselves are good enough, there just isn't the infrastructure to support them and enable long distance trips in the same way ICE cars are supported... with the possible exception of teslas which have the superchargers conveniently placed across the country. THOSE can just now go coast to coast.

for anything besides a tesla, you might as well draw a circle around your house with a radius equivalent to half the EV's range, because that's as far as you're going to go if you don't want to spend comparatively huge amounts of time waiting for it to charge or deal with range anxiety.

i think we'll still be making petrol cars in 100 years. MAYBE diesels. maybe.

at the moment, electric cars are kind of in the same position as computers were in the early 90s, things aren't standardized enough yet. plus, what if you have an EV and don't have a home with a garage, or even a driveway? what are you gonna do, have the charging cord stretch out across the lawn, over the sidewalk to the car? so some teenaged hoodlum douchebag thug can yank it out, snip it, vandalize it? that specific risk i don't want to take...

i don't understand why EVs are so suddenly and so quickly gaining in popularity....even less why countries like china are pledging to "ban" nonelectrics when they hardly even have the infrastructure to support it...especially in the less developed west.

i like what mazda is doing with HCCI and skyactiv, i think it's smart to keep refining and developing the ICE engine instead of giving up on it altogether and pulling a volvo.

where do people think electricity comes from? coal, many times. EVs themselves might be cleaner, but when you consider where lots of them are getting that electricity then the whole "power supplier to wheel" chain is pretty unchanged from a petrol car. cleaner, yes, but not SO much cleaner.

IMO, as it is now leave the EVs for city driving, they have a long ways to go before they can easily match the practicality and ease of use for ICE vehicles when it comes to the long, interstate commutes many people make.

oh, and americans don't take well to having things they love banned, story has shown that through and through. car culture is huge here, especially among the older folks.

The Tesla Supercharger stations aren't what they are cracked up to be... Still takes just over an hour for a full charge. I don't know about you, but my time is way to valuable for that. Many cars, even large trucks have further range and don't take long to fill up and get that same range again.

I noticed @Kiprobalhato mentioned the source of the power may not be clean... But mining the materials for the battery is one of the worse things for the environment. Combine the two, it's not about being green. But if you believe that, I can sale some carbon credits to make you feel better

I also believe diesel is the way of the future and wish America would adopt them more; they would if it wasn't for the EPA screwing them so bad (by chocking them with emissions and making them inefficient). Not only is diesel more efficient for both commuter cars and trucks (more so when towing). You can run diesel on plenty of alternative fuels, anything from jet fuel to vegetable oil.

so, virtue signaling?

The Telsa makes the owners feel good about being "green", same with other electrics and hybrids. So yes, you could say virtue signaling... But I think there is a financial practical reason to LEASE a electric car for business purposes, or even buying a used Prius for personal use (replacing the battery yourself on Prius for a refurbished unit is not that expensive, different story on full electric platforms). The other small portion buying Telsa's are car enthusiast, believe it or not the Telsa is stupid fast, with insane acceleration. Plus you get a tax credit and it doesn't piss off the sensitive clients like a Mercedes S-Class would (Oddly, the S-Class is cheaper to lease).

More TYT / Ring of fire crap generating lots of responses. Amazing.

It would seem like electric cars cause more pollution, because the environmentalists say natural gas is environmentally safer than burning "dirty coal" to generate electricity.

Searching google, I see research that says this is true. That many areas have coal-supplied electricity and thus, electric cars cause more Earth pollution.
https://www.thezebra.com/insurance-news ... -gas-cars/

So, you shouldn't feel good, rather you should feel bad for increasing pollution

"Driving an electric car in China, where coal is by far the largest power plant fuel, is a catastrophe for climate change"
https://www.scientificamerican.com/arti ... ily-clean/