I'm Not An Aspie. I Lied During My Assessment.

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I'm noticing the OP has not been back to the thread. This is not always but can often be the mark of a troll attempt. Not that I'm accusing the OP of being a troll, just saying. . . I wouldn't be the first one to think someone is just trying to get attention.

We don't know what's going on with the OP. And she says her diagnosis was 9 years ago. That's a really long time to suddenly start wanting to declare you lied.

Perhaps she did get caught up in reading about behaviors and stereotypes and felt like she can't be on the spectrum.
That's no basis upon which to question oneself or a professional diagnosis, not that they are foolproof.

Bottom line if the OP is reading this and if she is genuine in her concerns:

The stereotypes are only that, stereotypes based on stuff that happens but not everyone even is.

Even if she really believes she lied or faked during her diagnosis, there's a chance that she's still on the spectrum and her diagnostician saw that despite everything.

Alternatively, even if she faked successfully and she's not on the spectrum. . . .well I don't know.

And if she's faking all of it just to shock people here, well, this place has seen it all so it's really just another day on WP.

@Birdinflight: I'm not trolling. I don't exhibit many of the behaviours/quirks that Aspies have. I'm not any good with logic. I'm not talented, unless you count not tidying up/cleaning as a talent.

People, on the autistic spectrum are supposed to have perfect pitch; I can't play a musical instrument, or write music. I don't read books - if I see something mentioned on one page and then see it mentioned later, I have to find the original page. I also find reading boring, unless it's a newspaper.

From what I've read, aspies have meltdowns if they sensory overload, well I don't. The pitch/tone of my voice, when talking to my cats, is quite normal. Maybe I over-exaggerated the tone/pitch of my voice on the day of the assessment. Ergo, if I can speak normally I'm not autistic.

I grant you that I don't think of myself as being 47, or a woman - I'm just me - but even NTs surely can feel that they're not their chronological age and they're not male/female.

I didn't do all that well at the SQ Test, and I;m sure for the EQ Test, I answered the questions so that I got a low score. My Austism Test had me as having both NT & ND traits, so I took the test again until I had more ND traits.

How can I be autistic, if I can read people'e emotions? How can I be autistic, if I don't say things that might offend people? How can I be autistic if I don't have an all consuming special interest, or if I don't have a special skill, which all aspies have?

Where did you get your mythical beliefs about perfect pitch as typical of aspies?

Only two percent of virtuoso musicians have perfect pitch, meaning that 98% of the virtuosos, which we assume are both AS and NT, don't.

So what are your sources for the claims you make in this thread? Could you perhaps provide some so that we know where you are sourcing your beliefs from.

I think you are buying into the stereotype that to have ASD, you must be UBER AMAZING at something.

My husband has ASD, and no perfect pitch. He has some talents, but they aren't UBER AMAZING. Infact, his talents would be pretty much on the NT range. He isn't a savant.

My husband believes he can read people. Not by a long shot. He thinks he can actually carry a true conversation with give and take. He monologs when stressed, and that means all the time.

My husband thinks he doesn't offend people. Yes, he does. He doesn't mean it, and people are too polite to say, "Hey as*hole, what did you mean by that?"

My husband scripts all his conversations in his head before he opens his mouth. I never head of anyone doing that.

The only reason my husband thought decent social skills is people either a) ignored his mistakes or b) thought he was a weirdo and not worth the effort confronting him. So noone ever really got in his face and said "WTF just came out of your mouth."

You have to remember NTs are always doing a cost/benefit analysis during a conversation. If this person worth my effort to confront them? Will I see him again, so just let this go? Is it worth ignoring the monologing if I still get what I want in the end? Him running at the mouth doesn't matter, because his other qualities make up for it.

So..I would really wonder how great your social skills truly are if you are not around a whole bunch of people who will give you honest feed back. My husband was horrified to find out that he has the social skills of a 13 year old. I give him a free pass since I love him, and he has other good qualities. People at work didn't think he was worth the effort to confront. They just tuned him out.

What you believe you are projectioning may not be at all what others are receiving.

I've hated liars than and I hate liars now.

@B19: https://iancommunity.org/ssc/perfect-pi ... -rare-gift. If I don't have a special, all consuming interest, then how can I be classed as being 'autistic'?

Temple Gradin stated that there are three types of thinkers - visual, music & maths thinkers and verbal logic. I am none. I don't make lists - if I go shopping, I keep everything in my head. I can't be a visual thinker, as I'm not good at art and as for the music & maths thinkers, I can't write music, or play an instrument and I'm very poor at maths. Ergo, if I'm don't fall into any of those sub-sets, I can't be on the spectrum.

It's your life. Believe what you like, and as long as you don't harm others, live it your way with your beliefs.

The thing that cracked me up was the title- "Perfect Pitch; Autism's Rare Gift" ^^^^^^

Honestly, I do not fit into those types of thinkers either. I also have known other autistic people who do not fit in the verbal, patterns, and visual thinkers and disagree with them. I'm not great at verbal stuff, I suck at art and math, and even though I play an instrument I'm not that good. I don't think autism can be classed into three types of thinkers. Have you ever been tested for OCD? I'm just curious.

Nope. I do talk to myself, which may, or may not be an aspie trait and I sometimes use silly voices.

What I'm getting is that you might be an edge case. You might have just enough autistic traits to merit a diagnosis, or you might have one or so too few. You're you. I have my own way of having autism. Some people in this thread have given a demonstration of Black & White thinking, and may not like edge cases. Whatever. It's better not to lie, except when it isn't.

Possibilities:

Some people value being special (or simply being seen as special) more than they value the truth. Asperger's now has a community that some people find attractive.

In situations in which being perceived as having Asperger's might disadvantage them, they could simply not tell anyone, same as people who actually do have Asperger's. The social aspects of society are so messed up in some places that some people may feel that being seen as disordered is not much worse than their current social situation. Asperger's is more respected and understood than it was in the past, so maybe they don't have much to lose.

On the other hand, if anyone fits your description, most of them are probably young. Young people are not great at considering the consequences of their actions (telling people they have a disorder).

I took the Visual Pattern Fluid Intellgence Test last night and let's just say I didn't understand it. I had no concept of which patterns I was choosing to complete the sequences. To be honest, I may as well have been asked to translate a bunch of hyroglyphics. I was utterly bamboozled and gave up. Since I don't see patterns, am not good at maths, etc, etc, then I'm not an aspie. But I guess I could say that I am, as a 'get out of jail' card, when I go 'aaggghhh' & have a go at someone, when they annoy me.

If you're unsure about you're diagnosis I suggest go to a Aspie meetup and observe talk and listen to as many of them as possible over a long period of time. Each and everyone of us on the spectrum are different. Some are lower functioning others are higher functioning. I've been going to two different meetups for years. One arranged by the "municipality" (is that the right word in english? I used google translate). There I typically meet the lower functioning cases, still some higher functioning individuals drop by from time to time but they seldom comes back. The other meetup is arranged by Aspies themselves. At this one there are more higher functioning people, they have to be of course to manage to arrange something like that and keep doing it over time. Most of the people in both groups clearly are on the spectrum but just at opposite ends of it.

After being diagnosed myself many years ago I too was very unsure if the diagnosis was correct and if I had correctly and honestly answered all the questions and tests. I can just trust that the professionals that diagnosed me knew what they where doing and where able to spot any attempts by me consciously or unconsciously exaggerating some of the questions. I really don't know if I was honest or not. I also have social phobia and that might have influenced the tests somehow.

To this day I still question my diagnosis. But what I have discovered is that I mainly only get along with Aspies and I feel at home in the Aspie community and they accept me back as one of their own. I have met a lot of Aspies trough the years and many of them are very much like me, higher functioning cases. Some of them seem as unsure of their diagnoses as me. Others I just KNOW are on the spectrum because of certain obvious traits, but in most cases you could not notice the traits without knowing them well, and nobody on the street would know by looking or talking to them. It's a spectrum.

And by the way, I'm terrible at math, coding and music and seeing patterns and stuff like that. I'm descent at art stuff but by no means very good, I'm just creative with a good imagination and I'm stubborn, in time I can make stuff that is okay. I'm really bad at drawing realistically, I can't do that. I am obsessive though about my hobby's, but that might just mean that I'm a Nerd.

I didn't deliberately lie; what I said sort of popped out. The thing is, other than what the psychologist noted, I don't possess any of the quirks that Aspies are supposed to possess. I'm not interested in a subject/hobby, to the point of being anal. I'm not a maths genius. I don't fall into the three sub-sets of thinking, as prescribed by Temple Gradin, into which all Aspies. I'm not a visual thinker, a verbal/logic thinker, or a maths/musical thinker.

Given that Dr. Grandin is an expert, then if people, supposedly diagnosed as being autistic, don't fit into those three sub-sets, then how can we be autistic? If I'm not a systemiser, (my home is organised chaos - I finally got round to cleaning the bathroom sink, today, weeks after it last been cleaned), how can I be autistic? I guess I might have a problem with executive function, but lots of people put off things, or are disorganised.

I don't have perfect pitch, inasmuch as I can't tell which note is being played, as I don't read music, nor do I play a musical instrument. Admittedly, I can get obsessed with people; there is someone I like, who is way younger than me and I asked that person, if we could be FB friends. This person also said they would accept my Instrgram request, but I blocked the person concerned.

The psychologist who saw me for a follow-up questionnaire said that I had a problem with abstract thinking and central coherence. But based on what I've read: that aspies are: logical; good at systemising; have deep interests, (I get easily bored); good at maths/art/music/writing, and; can't read facial emotions, then the lie that I told, means that I've been wrongly diagnosed.

Maybe, if the psychologist had done her job properly and had given me tests, as well as interview me, then she might have said that I'm not autistic. She didn't ask me to take the Asperger's Quiz, the EQ, or the SQ tests. She just blathered on.

When I did some baseline tests for the Austism Research Centre, and I rang for some feedback, I was told that the tests indicated I might be an aspie; one of the tests was to look for patterns - I just guessed, (which means it might be easy to lie on the AQ Test), as I didn't know where the patterns were.

How can anyone be truly an aspie, if they don't have limited interests, aren't good at anything, (just bog standard), ans they don't systemise? I know I can't be.

Ok, you are not an aspie.

What do you want from this thread at this stage?

To the OP:

If you are that unsure about your diagnosis and you think the psychologist did not to due diligence, then the best thing to do is to get re-assessed by someone else. It's the only way you can know for sure.